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KICKmaximumASS
03.02.2013 , 11:23 PM | #11
I agree with all the posts stating "It gives them more freedom to do what they want".

Yes, it would have been nice to see things from the SW movies and all, but I think BioWare want to do something different not particularly pertaining to the movies and all.

After all, a different thing is always good, and sometimes I feel as if all of the repeats of SW get boring.

Makeb is an ideal place to start off the first expansion.
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MasterOak
03.02.2013 , 11:34 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by paul_preib View Post
My guess is that the more they stray from pre-established items the more freedom it affords them to tell the stories and do the things they'd like with less restrictions coming from preestablished lore.
My thoughts exactly.

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Altyrell
03.03.2013 , 12:03 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
I really hate it when people start asking for planets from the movies...
Its like the entire star wars universe consists of 10 planets :/

I would prefer more new and unknown planets.
Well these are the Worlds that we actually saw saw from the 6 movies:
  • Coruscant = Already in game
  • Naboo = Barely a Starport and the Gungans are either fighting each other or are fighting the early settlers, not part of the Republic yet. Theed does not exist in this Era.
  • Tatooine = Already in game
  • Geonosis = This could be interesting place to visit during this Era
  • Kamino = Would be somewhat difficult to create, but the ruins of Derem City does have Jedi Artifacts from Ossus
  • Cato Neimoidia = Could be interesting but might also be difficult to create
  • Alderaan = Already in game
  • Kashyyyk = Will likely be added at some point, but it would be interesting if added to see how it looks compared to KOTOR 1, SWG, and the Movies
  • Felucia = IF they were to add this, then it will likely be added with an Expansion that adds in (or more of) the Xim Empire as during this Era I believe it is still under the control of Xim's Empire.
  • Mustafar = 40 years before the events KOTOR a massive battle took place which caused the environment to change, and ~340 years later I'm pretty sure that Mustafar would likely be still dangerous to explore.
  • Dagobah = Why? There isn't much of anything during this Era.
  • Saleucami = I don't see why we would visit this during this Era as there isn't any info on this World during this Era other then 6,100 BBY it was colonized by Wroonians
  • Mygeeto = Only reason I can think of to visit would be abandon Rakata Tech and Crystals
  • Utapau = I don't see any reason to add it into the game
  • Yavin 4 = Other then the Sith Temples there, not much reason to go here as Naga Sadow's spirits & Freedon Nadd's Spirit have already been destroyed before the Game begun and we wouldn't be able to kill Exar Kun's Spirit as it doesn't die until 11 ABY.
  • Hoth = Already in game
  • Bespin = Cloud City doesn't exist during this Era so no real reason to add this Gas Giant to the game
  • Endor = The Republic does have secret bio-labs here

So, of the Worlds that were shown/explored in the Movies, the Worlds of Geonosis, Kamino, Cato Neimodia, Kashyyyk, Mygeeto, and Endor would be plausible or be interesting to visit however Kamino & Cato Neimodia could be a bit too difficult to create for various reasons so Kashyyyk, Geonosis, Mygeeto & Endor would be the the ones from the Movies that would be the most plausible at being added.

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Thylbanus
03.03.2013 , 01:56 AM | #14
Well, you can't do a planet that you create, wrong. They can mess up Dantooine, Yavin, Dothomir, and others. Kind of hard to mess up your own.
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Cavell
03.03.2013 , 02:11 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
I really hate it when people start asking for planets from the movies...
Its like the entire star wars universe consists of 10 planets :/

I would prefer more new and unknown planets.
Ten planets and five families, tops. But, that's what sells, unfortunately. It's why Darth Maul and Boba Fett and even Palpatine will never die, no matter how many times they actually do.

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Aries_cz
03.03.2013 , 02:16 AM | #16
Dantooine is pretty much abandoned planet in this era. If you talk to Risha (Smuggler's companion), she mentions that when she was there with her father, the y basically doubled the planets population. Of course, it could be hyperbole, but I think that it is pretty accurate.

It would be interesting to see Yavin 4 as an operation or flashpoint, with goal to contain the spirit of Exar Kun

Kashyyk would be awesome, although not sure what might be going on there
Same goes for Manaan, not sure what could be going on there, as it was abandoned after switching from natural kolto to synthetic bacta (not sure how widespread is the use of bacta in this period). However, if BW ever decides and manages to implement proper swimming in game, this world would be a perfect place for some underwater fun
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Altyrell
03.03.2013 , 01:43 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
Dantooine is pretty much abandoned planet in this era. If you talk to Risha (Smuggler's companion), she mentions that when she was there with her father, the y basically doubled the planets population. Of course, it could be hyperbole, but I think that it is pretty accurate.

It would be interesting to see Yavin 4 as an operation or flashpoint, with goal to contain the spirit of Exar Kun

Kashyyk would be awesome, although not sure what might be going on there
Same goes for Manaan, not sure what could be going on there, as it was abandoned after switching from natural kolto to synthetic bacta (not sure how widespread is the use of bacta in this period). However, if BW ever decides and manages to implement proper swimming in game, this world would be a perfect place for some underwater fun
On Dantooine there isn't much written between the end of K2 and the Clone Wars, as for the population, there is probably still people living there just with little to no Jedi presence. However, the Jedi Temple would be interesting to explore plus with the number of Jedi that were there that had fallen to the Dark Side, perhaps BioWare could add in a Storyline where during excavation of the lower level of the Jedi Temple revealed that it was built over a Sith Temple or something which had given way to the numerous Jedi who had fallen to the Dark Side.

I would want to go to Yavin 4 for more then just that.

With Manaan it would be difficult considering during the Great Galactic War (which took place just before the Game starts) the Sith Empire destroyed the Surface Cities driving the Salkath underwater, though at some point later Ahto City was rebuilt so if they were to add in Manaan then we could see Ahto City as it is being rebuilt. Oh, and Manaan wasn't abandoned because of Synthetic Bacta, I mean yeah it affected their Economy but Kolto was still being exported even into the Galactic Civil War and the Galactic Empire.

As for Kashyyyk, I agree that there isn't much there for us to really go there beyond Rakata Tech.

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kirorx
03.04.2013 , 08:54 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Altyrell View Post
On Dantooine there isn't much written between the end of K2 and the Clone Wars, as for the population, there is probably still people living there just with little to no Jedi presence. However, the Jedi Temple would be interesting to explore plus with the number of Jedi that were there that had fallen to the Dark Side, perhaps BioWare could add in a Storyline where during excavation of the lower level of the Jedi Temple revealed that it was built over a Sith Temple or something which had given way to the numerous Jedi who had fallen to the Dark Side.

I would want to go to Yavin 4 for more then just that.

With Manaan it would be difficult considering during the Great Galactic War (which took place just before the Game starts) the Sith Empire destroyed the Surface Cities driving the Salkath underwater, though at some point later Ahto City was rebuilt so if they were to add in Manaan then we could see Ahto City as it is being rebuilt. Oh, and Manaan wasn't abandoned because of Synthetic Bacta, I mean yeah it affected their Economy but Kolto was still being exported even into the Galactic Civil War and the Galactic Empire.

As for Kashyyyk, I agree that there isn't much there for us to really go there beyond Rakata Tech.
I too am a fan of Yavin. I would love to see and explore the Massassi Temple

I did not know that Manaan was destroyed.

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Aries_cz
03.04.2013 , 09:38 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Altyrell View Post
On Dantooine there isn't much written between the end of K2 and the Clone Wars, as for the population, there is probably still people living there just with little to no Jedi presence. However, the Jedi Temple would be interesting to explore plus with the number of Jedi that were there that had fallen to the Dark Side, perhaps BioWare could add in a Storyline where during excavation of the lower level of the Jedi Temple revealed that it was built over a Sith Temple or something which had given way to the numerous Jedi who had fallen to the Dark Side.

I would want to go to Yavin 4 for more then just that.

With Manaan it would be difficult considering during the Great Galactic War (which took place just before the Game starts) the Sith Empire destroyed the Surface Cities driving the Salkath underwater, though at some point later Ahto City was rebuilt so if they were to add in Manaan then we could see Ahto City as it is being rebuilt. Oh, and Manaan wasn't abandoned because of Synthetic Bacta, I mean yeah it affected their Economy but Kolto was still being exported even into the Galactic Civil War and the Galactic Empire.

As for Kashyyyk, I agree that there isn't much there for us to really go there beyond Rakata Tech.
Like I said, i am basing my assumption about Dantooine on what Risha says in one of her conversations.

Yavin 4 hold pretty much nothing is you skip the abandoned temples (correct me if I am wrong). It would be cool to go there, but what would we do there. Flashpoint/Ops to conatin some spirits seem like a good balance between seeing the enviroment and providing replayability that makes some sonse from stroyline perspective.

As for Manaan, I thought that the city got destroyed much later (it was a long time since I read it, and I just read Manaan article on Wookiepeida when I wrote my first reply), and that it was abandoned after bacta replaced kolto. But I assume that bacta is still in it's experimental stages in TOR era, as the only thing that uses bacta in high end trooper ability, every other technological healing method is kolto-based

Kashyyyk would be great again as some hunting expedition to Shadowlands Flashpoint/Ops, as there is basically nothing there, and Revan only went there to get the Star Map...
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03.04.2013 , 09:48 AM | #20
My understanding from the developer blogs is they choose a theme for a planet based on a story concept, and then craft an environment around that. Sometimes it is obviously a canon planet, sometimes it has to be something brand new.

I think they need this flexibility. Personally, I'm on board with saying that Makeb doesn't *seem* that visually appealing on first look. But I'll give it a chance because, personally, I find Ilum something bland but the i.e. re-worked PVP area for Ilum / Gree Starship were actually *very* cool and unique.


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Manaan would be awesome! You could have some "city" stuff similar to Coruscant/Nar Shaddaa but then put on a suit and mag boots and we can walk around in the water like in KotOR. World Boss could be one of those kolto making critters, neat stuff!
+ 1 that is an incredibly intelligent suggestion. This is absolutely a new and unique location that would fit into this universe perfectly.

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