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Darth Baras VS Darth Thanaton

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Darth Baras VS Darth Thanaton

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ZirusZero
10.15.2012 , 06:35 PM | #31
Baras, because we all know who would sit on who.
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Fallerup
10.15.2012 , 06:44 PM | #32
Thanaton got to power the honest way. That is why he is looked down upon. I know many of you have read the web comics. One of them is about him and how he killed the apprentice of the the supreme ruler of the Sith, the emperor, because no one else would or could.

That in it self should have given him the respect he so rightfully deserved and the emperor granted his request and made him a dark lord of the sith. But you see, Sith like deception and manipulation and thus respect someone more, if they can sheme their way to the top. In this, Baras is an absolute master, so was Zash. They send their apprentices to kill their masters while they keep their hands clean. This was looked down upon by Thanaton.

the players (warrior and Inqusitor) come to power like Thanaton did. Brutal honesty, they killed and took their place. So, it is my belief, that both player characters will also be looked down upon by the rest of them (Marr, Ravage etc.), even if they wouldn't dare say it to the warrior's face in fear of being executed for treason.
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Flamegeyser
01.30.2013 , 09:06 PM | #33
I don't think Thanaton would win. Baras is not stupid, he would know to avoid at all costs the destructive lightning, and he himself can scream with enough power to one shot the person who killed him, and a member of the dark council.
(Inquisitor, most undoubtably)

And, as already mentioned, Baras has a large network of spies.

Maybe though, in a fight of interrupts, Thanaton could beat the fatty.

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Bird_of_Thunder
01.31.2013 , 12:22 AM | #34
Baras would just have Draahg fight. Done deal.

Draahg the second time was harder than Baras. Thanaton was fairly easy, so Draahg wins, hence Baras wins.
This is all based off my personal experience. Baras and Thanaton were easy, but Draahg was a HUGE pain.
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aSpitefullRetort
02.21.2013 , 01:27 AM | #35
Bara's...even a blind deaf comatose labotomy patient would see that......

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Hirilonde
02.27.2013 , 11:14 PM | #36
Have played through both Sith Inquisitor and Sith Warrior, I'd say Baras, hands down.

Thanaton did not play the Sith game well. From the perspective of the Sith Inquisitor storyline, he played it fearfully... His 'strong arm', Darth Skotia, was just a cyborg brute, who drew more strength from his cybernetics than from the Force, and who was defeated by an Apprentice. He knew Zash had maneuvered things somehow, but rather than do something about it, he sat on his hands until the SI took care of the problem for him. THEN he tried to take out the SI... who at that point was still loyal, and could have potentially been a useful pawn... by sending her into an old tomb to be killed by a Force Ghost. The same SI who had spent the first part of her career going into tombs filled with Force Ghosts, and coming out again. Granted, it almost worked anyway, but 'almost' gets you a pissed-off and powerful enemy.

Thanaton seemed to be all about neutering his own underlings, ensuring that none were strong enough to potentially pose a challenge to him. His tactics weren't as much about making himself strong, as making anyone who might jostle his carefully arranged order weak.

Baras was more about balancing strength. He solicited and encouraged powerful, resourceful, dangerous underlings. He fed their power... and at the same time, he created countermeasure and plans to deal with them should the time come. And when he dealt with them, it was never when their usefulness was exhausted, or they had betrayed him... He always plotted it out a couple of steps before.

He fed the Sith Warrior's power, built them up... and at the same time, cultivated Lord Draagh as the counterbalance. Then, when the SW is well known as Baras' pawn, and is starting to realize Baras tends to cull his allies early, he cut him down. Even when the SW survived, it was difficult to convince potential allies against Baras he wasn't still working for him. Whereas the SI literally had allies Thanaton had screwed over throwing themselves at their feet in order to get in on taking Thanaton down.

As far as personal power... Sith Lords seem to ebb and surge quite a bit in that department. Thanaton probably knew a lot more arcane and obscure paths to power, whereas Baras is more of a traditionalist. But ultimately, Thanaton is too fearful. When the fight went against him against the SI, despite all of his talk about tradition and honor, he cut and run, and tried to get the Council to kill the SI for him. He is, beneath all of the pompous arrogance and adherance to tradition, fearful. And as soon as the fight goes against him, that fear takes over.

Baras would win on any front, I think.

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Arlanon
03.01.2013 , 12:32 AM | #37
if it was a force battle, Thanaton

if it was a pancake eating contest, Baras

if it was casting the straightman for a romantic comedy, Thanaton

if it was a slapstick comedy, Baras

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Trollokdamus
03.02.2013 , 07:02 AM | #38
Well, everything have already been said. In a fair duel, Baras would have no chance against Thanaton, but fair duels are anything but what the Sith do.

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peterdarkblade
07.27.2014 , 09:30 PM | #39
Thanaton would definitely beat Baras. Baras' force lightning is no where near as tough as Thanaton's bigass lightning storm. Thanaton's knowledge in the force is just far greater. Near these guys prefer lightsaber combat as we've seen in both storylines. I all comes down the force which Thanaton dominates.

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Leaveshill
01.08.2015 , 08:23 PM | #40
Baras - Would win a "kaggath"
Thanaton . would win the duel.
Thanaton is a warrior, Baras is a politician. Had they just met in a hallway and said "Hey bro, let's fight" then it's simply not a fight Baras would win. Has he fought anyone in the last ten years? Has he even touhed his lightsaber?
Baras is the superior leader, the superior sith in terms of manipulation and deception. He's the most cunning man in the Empire. But he's not the strongest sword. And he would likely lose to an experienced sorcerer and warrior such as Thanaton. One that earned his place through blood, not through words. But Baras is obviously the superior man overall, his schemes are grand and truelly inspiring. Serving Baras would've been an honor! If he didn't betray you, that is.