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Episode VII - Lucas and stuff...

Athrandiel's Avatar

02.28.2013 , 11:17 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Estriga View Post
My troll-o-meter is blinking between orange and red right now, but I'll bite with one word:

Then your trollometer is wrong.... i can clearly see u know little of star wars universe... if u knew u would also know that like 35-45% of STAR WARS FANS hate G Lucas... and all reasons i heard are preety darn stupid..
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02.28.2013 , 08:32 PM | #12
I never actually hated Lucas because, as you stated, he brought the Star Wars Universe to us and through a lot of opposition at the beginning. That being said, I think he lost his way with the Prequels as he surrounded himself by individuals who were too frightened to stand-up to his suggestions. A perfect example of this is seen on the Making of Phantom Menace documentary when they are screen-testing for the role of Anakin Skywalker. There was another young actor there that seemed to really hit his marks AND looked like he could be related to Luke Skywalker. Most of the people there at the screen-test really liked this actor over Jake Lloyd but because Lucas wanted Jake they all changed their answers immediately to what Lucas's answer was and BOOM, we had Jake Lloyd.

It's a small example, but you could really get the sense that Lucas wasn't wanting to change anything he had set in his mind and made sure those around him automatically agreed with him. I think Lucas was just too tired of Star Wars after Phantom Menace received mix reviews but he trudged on to complete what he started. It was the best thing for Star Wars for Lucas to hand it over to those who have that fire and excitement about the franchise such as those at Disney Studios.

Disney will bring a new life into the franchise that is sorely needed. Lucas can now retire and Star Wars won't suffer for it. I am looking forward to what is to come for Star Wars under Disney.

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03.01.2013 , 04:35 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Athrandiel View Post
i can clearly see u know little of star wars universe... if u knew u would also know that like 35-45% of STAR WARS FANS hate G Lucas... and all reasons i heard are preety darn stupid..
Attempting to use a boring cliche like "your Force is nothing but particles in your blood!" is plenty reason to lose faith in Lucas. He established the Force as one thing in the original trilogy, and then tried to be "deep" by doing the midichlorian thing. Everyone I knew who saw The Phantom Menace was simply irate at him doing something so blatantly unoriginal (because it falls under the disprove religion trope) while totally spitting in the face of what the original trilogy established. There's plenty of terrible examples, like the whole "there is no father" bit for Anakin and Padme's thing about being elected queen (poor attempt at a parallel with what we consider modern government).

Someone once said that the reason Star Wars was incredible back in 1977 was because Lucas knew he was making a movie about spaceships, robots and laser swords. In two decades his view of himself changed into some attempted "genius" producer/director and it shows in the prequel trilogy, when in reality it should have still been treated as a movie about spaceships, robots and laser swords.

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03.01.2013 , 10:55 PM | #14
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"Here's the general pop culture consensus on George Lucas: He sucks now, but he once wrote and directed the first Star Wars trilogy, which makes him another innovative, rebellious filmmaker whose creative fire has tragically guttered out.
But here's the truth: Lucas couldn't lose it because he never had it.

Who Actually Deserves the Credit:
First things first: Lucas absolutely was the brilliant mastermind behind the Star Wars movie ... prequels. I through III? That was all Lucas. But IV through VI? The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi were directed by Irv Kershner and Richard Marquand, respectively, and both screenplays were written by Lawrence Kasdan. But that still leaves Lucas as the writer/director of Episode IV, right? That's the big one: The Star Wars that put the "Star Wars" in Star Wars.
But A New Hope wasn't entirely Lucas, either: A fellow USC film grad, Gary Kurtz, who first collaborated with Lucas on his breakthrough film, American Graffiti, was producer for both Star Wars and Empire. Kurtz did more than an ordinary producer, however: Beyond running the day-to-day operations of the films, Kurtz also ended up coaching the actors (which is, technically speaking, the director's job).

Even minor characters like C-3PO weren't the juice of Lucas' mindgrapes. Lucas originally wanted 3PO to be an "oily, car salesman type" rather than our lovably gay robot butler friend. If that character archetype sounds familiar, that's because Lucas would later get his sleazy salesman in The Phantom Menace, in the shape of the flying anti-Semitic stereotype, Watto. The actually likeable, not-racist version of C-3PO that we know today was largely thanks to Anthony Daniels. Daniels was originally hired as just a mime inside the gold suit, with someone else providing the voice-over. But actor Stan Freberg convinced Lucas to not use a different voice and stick with Daniels -- which is particularly remarkable since Freberg was one of the actors considered to replace Daniels' voice. That's right: A struggling actor actually had to step up and sacrifice his own livelihood just to kill one of Lucas' terrible ideas."