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Screwed over by Bioware!


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TheNahash
03.01.2013 , 12:15 AM | #21
OK, few things:

1. Let's be honest here, OP. Names like "Bane", "Titan", "Grace", "Doom" and "Reaper" do not really require any effort apart from being the first to use them. They are run-of-the-mill names that you see in many variations in every single game (or sci-fi book, or movie, or comic book, etc). They're neither super-rare nor particularly inventive. That said, you have every right to consider them amazing and want to use them for your characters.

2. You spent 2-3 paragraphs explaining to us something that 90% of us "veterans" had to go through as well. And, like you, many of us had picked out names not by rolling our face on the keyboard but because for some reason or another we liked or were attached to them and had to change them (some of them twice) because of the transfers and server merges. It happened quite a long time ago to be mad about it still, tbh.

3. I also don't think they lied to you. I mean, seriously, sometimes you have to ask yourself what the person you think is lying to you has to gain. So what do you think the customer rep had to gain from you losing the name Bane?
Obviously, it was not a lie. It was a mistake.

However, we are paying customers and issues that are a direct result of a mistake by the Customer Support should be addressed properly by them with some sort of compensation. That is the ONLY thing in your post that I think merits compensation or (frankly) complaining about. Everything else has happened to a lot of people and we survived - you can too.

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Hoodling
03.01.2013 , 12:15 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by jabro View Post
Look at the levels of those names. They are all placeholders. Even if Bioware did something fair like give the name rights to the highest /played then you would have still lost them. Just because you didn't sleep to quickly make a bunch of names doesn't give you rights. I lost the name Wedge in the merge and I could care less.
Maybe I was the highest /played Reaper in the game, did you consider that? Maybe not, and I've considered that too. But I didn't even get a fair /roll for it since I didn't have the name Reaper anymore during the second server-merge. And honestly, "Wedge" doesn't quite measure up to the names I had. I wouldn't cry over losing that name either, not that it matters to you. If you wanted to keep that name bad enough, then I'm sure you'd be just as angry as I was over the myriad of epic names that I lost.

You guys keep getting hung up on the name rahter than the fact that Bioware simpy took them away. I don't care who you are or what you have, if something takes it away... they'll make you angry.

This thing that's bothering me the most is that their customer service was stupid enough to feed me a lie, making me lose the very last and most epic of all my names (Bane).

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chuixupu
03.01.2013 , 12:22 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by VegaPhone View Post
Names are a big deal. When you put effort into creating a name, it does make you feel more committed to the game and character.
But, in most cases, if you actually put effort into creating a name, rather than picking something very common, or a name already existing in fiction, you are more likely to keep that name. I agree that names are important, so before launch I actually spent a good amount of time creating names, searching for them in Google and making sure I wasn't taking something that everyone and their mom would use and it paid off for me.
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jabro
03.01.2013 , 12:30 AM | #24
I think your definition of epic is different than everyone else's in the world. What you think means epic is what we take to mean ordinary.

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Hoodling
03.01.2013 , 12:32 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by TheNahash View Post
OK, few things:

1. Let's be honest here, OP. Names like "Bane", "Titan", "Grace", "Doom" and "Reaper" do not really require any effort apart from being the first to use them. They are run-of-the-mill names that you see in many variations in every single game (or sci-fi book, or movie, or comic book, etc). They're neither super-rare nor particularly inventive. That said, you have every right to consider them amazing and want to use them for your characters.

2. You spent 2-3 paragraphs explaining to us something that 90% of us "veterans" had to go through as well. And, like you, many of us had picked out names we loved and had to change them (some of them twice) because of the transfers and server merges. It happened quite a long time ago to be mad about it still, tbh.

3. I also don't think they lied to you. I mean, seriously, sometimes you have to ask yourself what he person you think is lying to you has to gain. So what do you think the customer rep had to gain from you losing the name Bane?
Obviously, it was not a lie. It was a mistake.

However, we are paying customers and issues that are a direct result of a mistake by the Customer Support should be addressed properly by them with some sort of compensation. That is the ONLY thing in your post that I think merits compensation or (frankly) complaining about. Everything else has happened to a lot of people and we survived - you can too.
The reason I'm complaining about this now is that I've tried to accept all this crap and move on, but I no longer care about what happens as a result of me "oversharing" on the matter. Bioware has made some serious mistakes with their first entry into the world of MMO gaming, and I'm willing to forgive most of it... but not the loss of Bane.

As you say, why would they lie about it? They have nothing to gain by giving me misinformation that would lead me to lose the last name I cared about. But, their stupidity made it happen nontheless, and they couldn't even restore my character with the original name because their "tools" wouldn't allow it. You need to understand that I didn't just submit one ticket and get a response. I submitted a second ticket because I didn't quite believe the response I got to the first one since I couldn't create a character named Bane on any other server without getting the "invalid name" message. I finally got a customer server representative to talk to me in person, and I was told (after carefully explaining my concerns) that the name Bane would become available to ANYONE as soon as I deleted the character. Hell, I made a trial account on my second PC at the time just to pick up the name Bane the very second I deleted it from my primary. I had a character ready to go on my second PC, with the name Bane typed in and all I had to do was to press Enter (or next, or whatever)... and when I did (after having just deleted Bane from my primary) I got the message "invalid name" just as I expected... yet Bioware had assured me that wouldn't happen.

We all got screwed over by BW when all this crap was going on, but mostly during the first server merge. Like I said, if I had been stupid enough to stay on Bao-Dur, I would still have gotten a fair shake in regards to who got to keep the name Reaper between Nightmare Lands and The Red Eclipse... and that's all I'd ever ask.

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chuixupu
03.01.2013 , 12:32 AM | #26
edit: N/M I wasn't actually quoted
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Hoodling
03.01.2013 , 12:33 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
But, in most cases, if you actually put effort into creating a name, rather than picking something very common, or a name already existing in fiction, you are more likely to keep that name. I agree that names are important, so before launch I actually spent a good amount of time creating names, searching for them in Google and making sure I wasn't taking something that everyone and their mom would use and it paid off for me.
Still not getting the point, are we?

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Hoodling
03.01.2013 , 12:35 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by jabro View Post
I think your definition of epic is different than everyone else's in the world. What you think means epic is what we take to mean ordinary.
Yeah, nobody thinks the name "Bane" is epic. Nobody wants that name, right? You'd have to be a complete idiot to want to have that name... right? Sore losers' oppinions are completely inconsequential to me.

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KillaDeuce
03.01.2013 , 12:38 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoodling View Post
This may be a topic that's lost in history to most active players today, but I will never forget!

My first experience playing this game was at the BETA stage. I played for two minutes as a Trooper and then I minimized the game to pre-order the Collector's Edition. I've played the game continuously since then, and I love it. But, the server-merges really screwed me over, as it did with a lot of people.

The reason I pre-ordered this game was to get in on the early-access so that I can get some really cool names for my characters. I didn't just get cool names. I got iconic, epic names. Here's a screenshot of my character selection screen way, way back... on a server named Bao-Dur: http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...Character7.jpg

With the first server merge, there was no system in place to allow people like myself to keep (some of) our names. You simply had the choice to leave your server, or get stuck on a damned tombstone! So, naturally, I left Bao-Dur as fast as I could... so that I might potentially get to keep my names or at the very least get something not completely terrible. I'm sure a lot of people were thinking the same during the days of the first merge.

When the second merge happened, there was finally some kind of system in place to ensure that if you were an active player and all that, you might get to keep your character name(s). But, at that point, my epic character names were all gone. Infact, the only name I had left was Bane (how?), and I lost Bane when Bioware customer service *ensured* me that the name would become available again after I rerolled the character with that name. I was told that the name would be up for grabs again as soon as I deleted my current character with that name. The reason I wanted to reroll was that I already had a level 50 Guardian at that point, and the character named Bane was a level 20 Sith Warrior. I was so worried about losing that name that I actually contacted customer service to doublecheck and verify that the name would still be available after I deleted my character. A valid concern after having tried to make a character named Bane on another server only to be told that the name was invalid (as in not allowed). I deleted Bane, and as I suspected... I was not allowed to create a new character with that name. Even though Bioware's very own customer service told me I could. Naturally, I contacted the customer service again, in a fit of rage (yet still very polite) asking why they lied to me. The response I got was that, after checking out the situation more carefully, the name "Bane" was on the prohibited list. If I hadn't decided to reroll my warrior as marauder after being lied to by Bioware customer service, I would have still had at least one of my original names.

My main character is my Commando. He used to be called Reaper. I've been actively playing the game ever since the early access, raiding, raid-leading and then becoming a GM of a very active raiding guild that's still active to this day, and will remain active in the coming expansion. I've done a lot of good work for the community in this game, and I will never forget how Bioware repaid the favor. I lost all my character names in the first merge. I might have let that matter rest, but then Bioware's customer service outright lied to my face... making me lose the last name that meant anything to me. The pathetic excuses offered by the customer service people after realizing how badly they screwed me over still makes me chuckle madly to this day.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that's been screwed over like this. Bioware should have had all the rules about who gets to keep their names in place for the first merge, but no... they didn't.

These days, all I see ingame are screwed up names like "PõÙltrymân" etc. It takes me 15 minutes to figure out how to invite certain people to my groups! At the very least, Bioware should have adopted the Guild Wars 2 way of naming characters, as in allowing long names with spaces so that we could make names like "Bender the Offender" or "Grim Reaper" and so forth... instead of the Legacy crap. Whatever surname you choose for one of the characters won't fit the next one, or character of the opposite faction. With this superserver lagfest crap they're peddling, there's too many people with too many character on the servers for anyone to get a good name for their character.
Learn how to use Alternate characters: http://www.tedmontgomery.com/tutorial/altchrc.html

And those names in the link are not that great...just an opinion though.
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TheNahash
03.01.2013 , 12:41 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoodling View Post
As you say, why would they lie about it? They have nothing to have by giving me misinformation that would lead me to lose the last name I cared about. But, their stupidity made it happen nontheless, and they couldn't even restore my character with the original name because their "tools" wouldn't allow it.
If you do understand that it was a mistake on their part - a stupid one, indeed - then why do you insist on claiming they lied to you?

Being screwed over because someone gave you false information doesn't mean that person purposely lied to you. They just had their facts wrong and that's why I said you should be compensated somehow. Now, obviously, you can't use the word Bane - and tbh, I'm surprised you could in the first place since it's a pretty well-known Darth's name - but they should somehow compensate you for a loss that was their mistake.

PS: For what it's worth, I think using names like Lukee-Skywalker or Darth Vaider are worse than names like Princess Consuela Bananahammock. At least the latter one shows effort.