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Why Part 2: Schön Ihr CM's Eric&Co.

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Why Part 2: Schön Ihr CM's Eric&Co.
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Aehwe
02.28.2013 , 04:20 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Lent_San View Post
Honey, this is not about refusing to learn english. Most german people's english is quite decent.

This is about killing off a position that was filled before, thus alienating the community this position/person was supposed to care for.

Which smacks of disregard for that particular community. That's what is annoying people.
If most German people's English was quite decent there would be no need for a German version of the game nor German forums.
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Lent_San
02.28.2013 , 04:38 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by Aehwe View Post
If most German people's English was quite decent there would be no need for a German version of the game nor German forums.
My english is decent and while I have no problem with it, why should people be forced to communicate in a different language to the one they play their game in? Heck, why have dubs in the first place? I played ME in german and english, and to be honest, the german dub seemed way more professional than the english original.

I guess they like the revenue from european players, but don't wanna pay for their support. That's irritating.

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Trollokdamus
02.28.2013 , 04:52 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Aehwe View Post
We're not talking about the majority in many many countries. We're talking about Germany and France. Smack in the middle of Europe.

I will live my entire life without ever having used algebra. I have no use of knowing what plants grow in the middle of the forest and I couldn't give a flying **** about writing poems. Yet I learned all these things and TONS of other things I will never ever have the need for in school and probably so did you. And just like me you most likely have no use of the same things, but I bet you have use for the English language. I know you do as you're communicating with me.

Out of all the things you learn throughout your life, is learning how to communicate with the modern western world really such a horrible thing?

In fact, here in Norway most people get the chance to pick between learning French, German and Spanish in school aswell. So while you are so stuck up and stubborn and won't even learn English, we learn an additional language. Just because you simply refuse to learn English.
Speaking about myself, i was lucky enough to study in a foreign language oriented school, plus i had a couple of personal mentors at some point during that time. But people tend to forget stuff if they don't refresh it in their minds from time to time, so now, when 8 years have passed since i graduated from school, the only things that keep my English on more or less acceptable level are communicating with foreign people via forums and video games and occasional rare cases of self-educating.
But that's me, i've always had some sort of an affinity to foreign cultures and languages, was even planning to leave my country in order to experience the life in different ones at some point. Still, there are many people around me who are not interested in English at all. They are absolutely fine with living in Russia and communicating just with other Russians for their entire lives. And these people are playing MMO's just like the rest of us. I bet there are many people of the same attitude in both Germany and France.

Quote: Originally Posted by Aehwe View Post
Out of all the things you learn throughout your life, is learning how to communicate with the modern western world really such a horrible thing?
It's not a horrible thing, it's just a useless and irrational one to do as seen by some people. Indeed, why would you dedicate your time and money to learn something that does not interest you and you are sure you will have no use of? Isn't it better to dedicate them to something that can be helpful in, let's say, your profession or hobby?

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Terasexa
02.28.2013 , 04:54 PM | #114
@Aehwe:
You don't get it.
German is the most spoken language in europe.
Because of that almost every Game was released in german language in the past 15 years.
The german gamer community ist accustomed to that fact.

Anyway some german use the english geme client or look their moovies in english language for that reason you told us. Some of them argue here whith you.
But there are a lot of other gamner who don't need their englich for the job. They have a lot of other interests than to improve thir english, particularly just for one game.

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jahdur
02.28.2013 , 05:04 PM | #115
They should learn to speak English is irrelevant, they were offered a service from the get go and now it has been removed. It is mediocre customer service, no doubt driven by cost cutting. If I were a French or German speaking player I too would be pissed off that they removed a service being offered since day one.

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Terasexa
02.28.2013 , 05:10 PM | #116
@Trollokdamus: Thank thats my point. You just worded it alot bether than I.



I'm one of them who forgot a lot of the english stuff since my schooltime.
And I spend plenty of time just to write som centences.

And in matter of the france people: do you knew they set in a committee to protect their language from anglicism?
And set in a rate for a minimum of radio songs in france language.
They are very proud of their language.

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Palar
02.28.2013 , 05:19 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Aehwe View Post
How bout you all suck it up and start learning English? You know... so you can actually communicate with the rest of the world. I would honestly be embarrassed and ashamed if I didn't know English.
Yeah, why should companies have to put effort into new markets? The customers are the ones who need to bend over backwards to give their money to foreigners - it makes total sense...

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Terasexa
02.28.2013 , 05:24 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Palar View Post
Yeah, why should companies have to put effort into new markets? The customers are the ones who need to bend over backwards to give their money to foreigners - it makes total sense...
They want to retire out af the market. It goes on..
But care for the market? No! To expencive! (it seems they think so)

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GettoGecko
02.28.2013 , 06:57 PM | #119
After playing on the PTS I though €A is back on track but this slap in the face hurt so much that I'm thinking about unsubscribing for the first time.
Maybe its because its €As first MMO and they don't know how important the community is for an MMO cause with there trashy ever year the same s**** sports and shooter games they only know consumers and no customers or its because they realise that an MMO don't fit in with there new microtransaction and casual strategy.
Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if €A share the same fate as THQ within the next decade when they don't learn how customer loyalty or customer hatred can affect a company.

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Solar_Breeze
02.28.2013 , 07:32 PM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by GettoGecko View Post
After playing on the PTS I though €A is back on track but this slap in the face hurt so much that I'm thinking about unsubscribing for the first time.
Because someone is no longer employed your gaming experience is so greatly wounded you feel as if you have been physically slapped in the face? So much so that you now want to unsub from a game you were clearly interested in after seeing what was coming up.

That's quite a strong reaction to something like this.