Stop forcing PVP on PVE servers

No. No, he is actually quite correct. Your choice words reveals that you are indeed trying to subjegate your opponents, not discuss. This is abusive.

You are right on one point, the last, you don't HAVE to flag. That is OUR point. Hence why your point is baseless. (Purjury, really? Again, you are going for abusive language disguised as intellect. As for libel, hardly. You are doing a fine job of defaming yourself.)

No, it doesn't. It is fine the way it is. PvE gets rewards, PvP gets rewards, those who do both, get the Grand Prize and get BOTH.

If he is misrepresenting, please repost. We can start anew. I think you will find you are still going to be disadvantaged here.

As for the OP, here was my response for him.

But we were discussing YOUR stance and platform, not Morden's.

Rather than respond directly to any more of your postings, I will merely leave you with a question to answer, and if you even dare to answer it with honesty and without barbed insults or vacuous logic, then it will leave you inherently in support of this thread:
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• What is it about PvP gameplay that bothers strictly PvE-only players so much?

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You may want to proof read that question.

If you meant
What is it about PvP gameplay THAT bothers strictly PvE-only players so much?

Then I would assume being ganked?

I honestly couldn't say since I do both PvE and PvP seriously

When referenced to the OP this does not support this thread.

The fact that you attempt to dismiss my counter points does not mean I have not made them.

I have actually been rather polite to you considering your condescending and rude attitude towards those who don't agree with you.

All players can expect equal Event reward potential. This can not be denied. They may not want to do all the missions, but they are able to do so.

PvEers can declare themselves strict PvE only players. The Event will still work for them just as it does for all other players partaking in it.

PvPers have just as much right to declare themselves strict PvP only players just as PvE players can declare themselves strict PvE only players. You can not say one play style is able to make such a declaration while denying all other play styles from doing the same. Trying to do so just makes you look hypocritical. Despite your repeated attempts you don't have the authority to speak for other players and decree what they may or may not consider inherently objectionable.

The fact that I don't immediately cave in to your repeated attempts to declare yours the only possible truth is a testament to my ability to wield logic and construct valid proofs.

The original poster made a ridiculous post complaining about being killed by other players in a PvP zone. Considering his post the replies to it were tame. Everything about his post was unreasonable. But if you don't care for my opinion you just go ahead and get my 30 day ban started.

They hate that the flow of their game is interrupted by their own carelessness.

Better question: What is it about PvE-only players that they are so bothered by people who enjoy doing both?

You are quite right, that haste makes for mistaks...

You have suitably indicated a large portion of the problem, I think genuinely without realizing how revealing this would be. I am content to leave this portion of the discussion where it is.

It is only you who has been condescending. I have only openly criticized absurd opinions that all grow out of a fundamental disrepect for other players' rights. Describing yourself as a trolling thug isn't going to convince many people to give further consideration to your opinion. My only attitude has been to expect people to take into account the rights of PvE players. You failed.

You are missing the entire meaning of "strict PvP-only player". There's no particularly compelling reason why PvP players can say they object to having to do PvE missions as part of an Event, or anywhere else for that matter. Holding hostage needed changes for PvE players' quality of life in-game as a ploy to get new features added for PvP is an absurd standpoint. There are certainly dedicated PvP-only players, but there's no such thing as a strict PvP-only player.

And it shouldn't even need to be mentioned, that no one has asked for additional features for PvE players, only for shadow-missions of the Event's [PVP] missions (or any similar mission tweak) that would allow PvE players to complete all missions on the Event terminal without flagging for PvP and becoming subjected to that.

It's not about declaring who's wrong or right, it's about the discussion taking into account the rights of PvE players. You failed, very badly.


Where you pompously pretend to see a ridiculous post, I see only a very serious problem being described in very clear detail. Absolutely nothing about his post was unreasonable. If you think even for a minute on the Original Poster's first posting, you'll realize that you're neglecting to acknowledge that the only reason he was in the PvP zone on the mission in the first place is that he had finished his daily Event missions for PvE, and realized he wants to get the full daily possible Trophies to maximize his earnings of +Reputation during the 2 weeks (after all, those reward items look excellent and it requires Champion status). EVERY SINGLE WORD in his post was completely civil, reasonable, and perfectly deserving of consideration for a solution to the problem he's describing.

And now here YOU are, not only suggesting that he's being ridiculous, but that he deserves any and all vehemence that has been spewed by the initial responses and by yourself, and you EVEN are insinuating that he deserves more abuse than already received. I have to tell you, I would be ashamed to have someone such as yourself in my guild. You are severely sociopathic, cruelly abusive for no reason, and you belong NOWHERE on these forums.

This is endless absurdity. Your statements are just as vacuous as his. And you clearly don't understand the meaning of subjugate. You are not an opponent of mine, you are choosing to be an opponent of PvE players' rights in SWToR. You are here trolling in this thread, staging an absurd argument that there's no problem with the way the missions were made to work in the Gree Event.

You haven't come up with an alternative solution to how to ensure that PvE players can earn full amount of rewards each day at Events without flagging for PvP. You can't suggest that my proposed solutions are unacceptable without originating a solution to take its place.