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kevlarto
02.22.2013 , 04:36 PM | #41
My question is if the 51-55 level increase is free to everyone, where is the new free content area to level in ? so what I am reading in this thread is Makeb will be added and everyone will be level 55 already but you have to purchase the new planet ? lots of things in thread seems to be a bit strange to me, just trying to figure it out.. This is TOR stanger things have happened lol....

I was always under the impreression that Makeb was the 51-55 leveling content that you had to purchase, but maybe I have gone crazy LOL
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chuixupu
02.22.2013 , 04:44 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by kevlarto View Post
My question is if the 51-55 level increase is free to everyone, where is the new free content area to level in ? so what I am reading in this thread is Makeb will be added and everyone will be level 55 already but you have to purchase the new planet ? lots of things in thread seems to be a bit strange to me, just trying to figure it out.. This is TOR stanger things have happened lol....

I was always under the impreression that Makeb was the 51-55 leveling content that you had to purchase, but maybe I have gone crazy LOL
From the long quote posted from the announcement of 2.0, it seems pretty clear to me that your level cap increase "is included with the purchase of RotHC". So I don't believe you will be able to get to 55 without it. However, the skill tree revamp, new abilities prior to 55, achievement and title system will all be accessible to everyone who plays.
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02.22.2013 , 04:47 PM | #43
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2.0 is free to all players. You don't have to pay for it, and you can level to 55, get new skills and new talent trees. Everything that is on the PTS will be free for everyone, not the expansion.

ROTHC is the expansion and requires you to pay for it.
No, you can not level to 55 with 2.0, the level cap is increased to 55, but you cannot level past 50 without buying ROTHC. if you look on the splash page for 2.0 it clearly outlines in SEVERAL areas that you cannot level to 55 without the expansion.

This is no different than any other pre-patch for an expansion, they are making the class changes permanent, the overhaul of the progression and commendations systems, the achievement systems are permanent, but you will not be able to level or do the new content without the expansion.

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mithrelkhaar
02.22.2013 , 04:49 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by kevlarto View Post
My question is if the 51-55 level increase is free to everyone, where is the new free content area to level in ? so what I am reading in this thread is Makeb will be added and everyone will be level 55 already but you have to purchase the new planet ? lots of things in thread seems to be a bit strange to me, just trying to figure it out.. This is TOR stanger things have happened lol....

I was always under the impreression that Makeb was the 51-55 leveling content that you had to purchase, but maybe I have gone crazy LOL
you will have to purchase the expansion in order to progress to 55, the 2.0 patch is the groundwork changes to the systems, otherwise people who didn't pay for the expansion would be playing a totally different game ( still have Tionese,Columi,Rakata, etc.) this makes it to where the same game is available, but there is a lock placed on 51-55 and makeb to any who don't pay for the xpac.

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craic_fox
02.22.2013 , 05:40 PM | #45
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I was really hoping that as future expansions for Swtor came out and it started to stand on it's own two feet it would start to move more and more away from the EQ/WoW style of gameplay. But everything ive seen is the same old gain a few levels and then grind gear till next year. There are no new types of gameplay or progression, no new things to do at endgame, no new types of world interaction or exploration. It's just the same old hamster wheel gear grind that appeases the raiders and the latest gen of MMO players that grew up with WoW.
I empathise, but what did you expect? It's a themepark MMO and games like this are like fast food outlets. TOR is KFC not the Fat Duck. You will never see Chicken Liver Parfait on the menu here. It serves chicken in a Star Wars bucket to people who like to eat chicken out of buckets and maybe get a free toy now and again. Most of the regular diners here know what they like and like what they know. They become distressed if you change the recipe or try to introduce anything fancy or new.

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xxIncubixx
02.22.2013 , 05:44 PM | #46
2.0 IS RotHC makeb is beeing tested on the closed beta test (invite only)

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Rafaman
02.22.2013 , 05:52 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by craic_fox View Post
I empathise, but what did you expect? It's a themepark MMO and games like this are like fast food outlets. TOR is KFC not the Fat Duck. You will never see Chicken Liver Parfait on the menu here. It serves chicken in a Star Wars bucket to people who like to eat chicken out of buckets and maybe get a free toy now and again. Most of the regular diners here know what they like and like what they know. They become distressed if you change the recipe or try to introduce anything fancy or new.
And there is lots of money in fast food. Hec, it's recession proof.

They won't change their course now and make this game a sandbox or some other new concoction. There is too much risk involved. Attempts at wholesale changes have been tried before... *cough, SWG* and failed miserably.

I'll take a bucket of original recipe please... and hold the repair costs.

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Lovethebeard
02.22.2013 , 05:58 PM | #48
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The expansion contains access to Makeb, new pvp warzones, new FP, new gear, etc. You want to run those, you need to pay for it. If you just want to level to 55, you don't need to buy the expansion.
wait what the funk? is this your first mmo? You will not be able to obtain new levels without paying for the expansion. LvL 55 is for Rise of the Hutt Cartel only, along with the new Ops and Makeb.
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Arlbo_Nabbins
02.22.2013 , 05:59 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by jgoldsack View Post
2.0 is free to all players. You don't have to pay for it, and you can level to 55, get new skills and new talent trees. Everything that is on the PTS will be free for everyone, not the expansion.

ROTHC is the expansion and requires you to pay for it.
Nope. 2.0 is also RotHC, its been confirmed by the devs. So at the moment we do not know which things on the PTS will be available for everyone and which things will be gated by the purchase of RotHC. From the advertising it looks like the 51+ content will be gated.

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02.22.2013 , 06:04 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by kevlarto View Post
My question is if the 51-55 level increase is free to everyone, where is the new free content area to level in ? so what I am reading in this thread is Makeb will be added and everyone will be level 55 already but you have to purchase the new planet ? lots of things in thread seems to be a bit strange to me, just trying to figure it out.. This is TOR stanger things have happened lol....

I was always under the impreression that Makeb was the 51-55 leveling content that you had to purchase, but maybe I have gone crazy LOL
If they do allow people to level to 55 without buying RotHC what it would mean is that people who don't buy it will be able to get to level 55 but they will have to do so through the existing content and probably the new HM Fps and maybe the new OP. We currently earn xp doing 50 content but we can't progress so all we get is the legacy xp part of it.
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