Why im bummed about 2.0.

Only you know the answer to that. But I think you misunderstand my post. I said we don't know that we won't get transfers with Makeb because they haven't said that they will or won't, only that they're coming later this year. That is why they are *in testing* right now. It's buggy. They want to release something that you know, works.

2.0 is free to all players. You don't have to pay for it, and you can level to 55, get new skills and new talent trees. Everything that is on the PTS will be free for everyone, not the expansion.

ROTHC is the expansion and requires you to pay for it.

One more recent interview doesn't negate all the previous messaging. This is akin to saying that EA ALWAYS intended that SWTOR was going to be Freemium when they clearly stated that they wanted to make a successful subscription game. They "pivioted" because they failed at their initial objectives. They failed to be "the WoW killer" that everyone thought SWTOR would be; EA, BW, and the SWTOR community included. You can not use selective messaging to change the entirety of memory. That only works on some. EA and EAware are all about messaging these days. Their product failed. It is not what they originally intended. If it was: The first round of people that left would still be here, I wouldn't have unsubscribed and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

This was a year ago...not exactly recent. But I honestly don't recall seeing the developers saying otherwise. I'm not saying they didn't, just that I didn't see it. I have posts from another forum where we were discussing it prior to release and a lot of the talk was "it's going to be WoW with a Star Wars skin". If you have prior interviews from the project leads where they contradicted that statement then I'll just agree that is the case. It's just always been my impression that fans and bloggers blew everything out of proportion.

Fri, Oct 24, 2008 WoW is the target for The Old Republic, says LucasArts and EA

The hype was Started by EA and Lucas Arts.

Fri, Oct 24, 2008 WoW is the target for The Old Republic, says LucasArts and EA

The hype was Started by EA and Lucas Arts.

I was really hoping that as future expansions for Swtor came out and it started to stand on it's own two feet it would start to move more and more away from the EQ/WoW style of gameplay. But everything ive seen is the same old gain a few levels and then grind gear till next year. There are no new types of gameplay or progression, no new things to do at endgame, no new types of world interaction or exploration. It's just the same old hamster wheel gear grind that appeases the raiders and the latest gen of MMO players that grew up with WoW (And maybe not even them anymore if you look at the amount of ppl looking or a return to Sandbox style MMO's)

It's a shame really with such games like The elder scrolls online, EQ Next, Camolot Unchained , The secret world etc etc etc all with new systems, new ways to play, end game progression not just for raiders and pvpers but for everyone, and real inovation that Swtor continues to play it "safe" and just add the same old hum drum content.

There not making their "Galaxy" bigger they are just putting in new pixels.

Oh well I know this is just the first round of PTS patch notes and there could be more stuff on the way but to Quote a certain scruffy nerf hearder im gonna say "I got a bad feeling about this".

I would love to know what the Development teams plan for the future of Star Wars The Old Republic, that is if they have one.

At the moment it feels that with the level increase all the gear that people have worked hard for is becoming junk, all those op runs and HM flash point runs is rubbish. Those augment slots and augments all have to be replaced, in short the grind starts all over again for 5 levels.

But those 5 levels don't bring any new Class or Companion Story, they don't infact bring any new story unless you pay for ROTHC. One new Op which is good news and a bunch of flash points already in the game will be made harder for level 55. Oh and an achievement system that seems to encourage replaying aspects of the game multiple times or hunting for lore objects so you can show others you truely have no life.

Now it can be guessed at that when Class Story continues that will be more levels added to the game at which point this will all start over again. What you work hard for now will be given for daily coms when that happens and a new level 60 gear will be available.

Now I appreciate that this is the nature of MMO's and new gear but BW seem to have pushed this through with little thought to the experience of the game. Dumping a new grind on players but with little else added, unless you purchase the expansion and even then its more the 50 to 55 than making people want to get that level 55 gear so they can experience new aspects of the game.