30 Items at 20% Chance to RE Each and Not a Single Hit? Yeah, RIIIIIIIIIGHT....

Just RE'd 2 different items, 15 each, both with 20% chance to RE. And?

NOTHING.

20%? Yeah, right. You're going to tell me that 30 items, each with a 20% chance to RE didn't ONCE hit within that 20% range?

What unseen element is it, exactly, that stops the random rolls in RE'ing from differing? For those of you who don't know, computers are unable to generate truly random numbers; their choice-selections are based off a time-clock, multiplied, sometimes several times within the same algorithm, off of said time-clock. Is it based on the minute? It should be on the hundreths of seconds.

This is far from the first time that I've wasted hundred of thousands of credits, either, in pursuit of the same thing. It wasn't level 47 stuff, either; the Might Mods were level 29, and the Blue Vehemence Crystals were level 31.

We need either a re-write of the "random"-number code in SWTOR, or a queue to guarantee that you get under-50 items to RE after so many tries.

/EndNerdRage

The real problem is not how it's calculated, it's the use of random numbers in a feature design that's supposed to be fun (it's a game).

I understand they don't want to give all the schematics automatically, I understand they want it somehow luck based, ... but there must be a limit to how many tries you need because at some point, the perceived feeling changes from having just bad luck to being annoyed and frustrated and sometimes even to stop doing that activity or playing.


The thing is it's not rocket science to do something to limit how many tries you need. With just a few lines of code and 1 byte per schematic, you can stop players from being really frustrated at times.

LOL, my record is 79 misses on a 20% chance. Then I just gave up because I knew that the probability of my missing another 79 times was exactlly the same as the first 79.

RNG is rng. The system is working as intended. It may be terrible, but that is what the devs want and what you have.

Well I understand your frustration, in theory you could RE 80 or even more of them and get nothing. It's a flat 20% chance each time, not cumulative.

The real problem is not how it's calculated, it's the use of random numbers in a feature design that's supposed to be fun (it's a game).

I understand they don't want to give all the schematics automatically, I understand they want it somehow luck based, ... but there must be a limit to how many tries you need because at some point, the perceived feeling changes from having just bad luck to being annoyed and frustrated and sometimes even to stop doing that activity or playing.


The thing is it's not rocket science to do something to limit how many tries you need. With just a few lines of code and 1 byte per schematic, you can stop players from being really frustrated at times.

Just RE'd 2 different items, 15 each, both with 20% chance to RE. And?

NOTHING.

What an inane post. Please refer to the Law of Large Numbers and stop wasting our time just because you had a string of bad luck.

Holy crap. And I thought I had the worst luck. I remember going 0 for 40-something and just gave up. But looks like you have me beat.

I did think it was broken at the time. And who knows, it could be? Just like how wz queues sometimes won't pop up for some odd reason until you re-queue.