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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)

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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)
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tdgesq
02.15.2013 , 07:51 PM | #631
Quote: Originally Posted by elvinlordryan View Post
To all the complainers,

You guys have yet again impressed me with you're stupidity. Have any one of you actually played the game at launch? Are you even paid subs?
You have not impressed me with yours. And yes, many of us are paid subs, which you would know if you had even taken a cursory glance at the prior posts.

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However, the cost to repair at the launch of this game was a lot higher.
Yes, and what happened to subscriptions again? Please point me to all the threads clamoring for higher repair costs post-1.2. Go ahead. Where are they?

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Let's not mention the harder it was to grind credits since the game was brand new. I understand the constant grind of dallies gets old, but unfortunately that is what has to be done. If you want to progress in raiding, well you are going to have to put some extra time into making the money.
It doesn't have to be done if EA changes it back to the way it was for a year, which is what we are asking for here.

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This game is attracting more and more of the "entitled" people who believe they should get everything for free.
People aren't asking for free repairs. lol. I mean, what are you talking about?

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If this increased repair costs makes you complainers that angered or upset about how this game is being run, then please feel free to cancel your sub. You are not entitled to anything except access to play the game.
We already figured that out without your helpful information, and have decided to do exactly that - me included.

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To you F2Pers. they owe you absolutely nothing. Playing this game for free does not mean you get the same stuff that $15 a month subs do.
Really? Even if they bought cartel coins for all the unlocks. I have no idea what this has to do with increased repair costs, which ftp and subs both get to enjoy.

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Please stop complaining about this game. If this game is as bad as many of you say it is, why in the world are you still logging on?
How about you stop complaining about everybody else complaining. If you don't like the complaining, then please stop logging on. Additionally, please only post positive comments instead of how impressed you are with everyone else's "stupidity." good grief.

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RedVisionaire
02.15.2013 , 07:51 PM | #632
Quote: Originally Posted by Daedahl View Post
My guess is they added the cost of the shell back into the cost of the repair, whereas before it was just the cost of the mods that were the repair cost. Expensive shells (I believe the legacy gear is over 1 million for the level 20 gear set) are costing significantly more to repair now.
I haven't tested anything with this, but it seems like this would then have the unattractive side effect of making Cartel armor much cheaper to repair, since it sells to a vendor for one credit. While I doubt this was their intention, I suspect they will have many more unhappy people around if true (to reiterate, I didn't test this).

As an aside, back in the old days of repair costs, costs were determined by percent repaired, not a flat rate per durability point. This meant that it cost the same to go from 40 to 80 durability (for light armor) as it did to go from 60 to 120 durability (for heavy) - ie, light armor wearers had to repair more often, for the same price. While I don't really raid anymore, it would be unfortunate if the increased repair costs made this an issue again.

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Iggster
02.15.2013 , 07:54 PM | #633
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVenizen View Post
conspiracy theory gogogogogogogo
Ok I'll go.

*puts on tin foil hat*

Bioware intentionally raised the cost of armour repairs, as their first attempt, to increase money sinks within the game.
Now that the players have less credits in their galactic wallets. They are unable to purchase valuable Cartel Market items from the GTN. Thus forcing them to buy Cartel Coins and buy their own packs!

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Pirana
02.15.2013 , 07:57 PM | #634
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVenizen View Post
conspiracy theory gogogogogogogo
Not a conspiracy theory genius. Anytime a company decides to go free to play, said company will nickel and dime you anyway they can. It's a slippery slope. Learn business.
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spiduranche
02.15.2013 , 07:59 PM | #635
This is definatly something Bioware needs to address. They lowered the repair costs a while back, to a level that I found I was comfortable with, as it was cheap and I was able to manage my funds and repair costs well.

HOWEVER with the current patch that has been released with the Gree event, the cost of repairs has almost doubled from what It previously was, and it needs to be rectified, to the level of fee, it was before 1.7 was released.

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Daedahl
02.15.2013 , 08:10 PM | #636
Quote: Originally Posted by RedVisionaire View Post
I haven't tested anything with this, but it seems like this would then have the unattractive side effect of making Cartel armor much cheaper to repair, since it sells to a vendor for one credit. While I doubt this was their intention, I suspect they will have many more unhappy people around if true (to reiterate, I didn't test this).

As an aside, back in the old days of repair costs, costs were determined by percent repaired, not a flat rate per durability point. This meant that it cost the same to go from 40 to 80 durability (for light armor) as it did to go from 60 to 120 durability (for heavy) - ie, light armor wearers had to repair more often, for the same price. While I don't really raid anymore, it would be unfortunate if the increased repair costs made this an issue again.
The more I think about it the more I wonder. I do have a character with the Trailblazer headpiece, I might need to send those mods to that character and see what the costs to repair are. It's only a couple of dailies to test. It's possible that was the previous problem, those with cartel gear had inordinately low repair costs (because it was just the shell cost) and now it's much greater, which is the reason for the uproar. Personally I haven't seen significant changes in my repair costs, but I don't run Ops either.

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Hyfy
02.15.2013 , 08:13 PM | #637
Quote: Originally Posted by Soxbadger View Post
Interesting, it seems that tanks are getting disproportionate increase?

Because from most of the people posting it seems those who are tanks are reporting high increase, those who are other classes not so much. Perhaps there is something that is making heavy armor cost more than light armor?

The only other thing would be that somehow legacy armor is costing more, and that there is truth that a fancier shell is equating to cost, even though there is no performance gain.
A Shadow wears light armor not Heavy. Tanks in general are taking more of a pounding as is their role to do so, so to speak, and because of it they are taking disproportionately higher costs for repairs.
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Poondavo
02.15.2013 , 08:25 PM | #638
Quote: Originally Posted by elvinlordryan View Post
To all the complainers,

You guys have yet again impressed me with you're stupidity. Have any one of you actually played the game at launch? Are you even paid subs?

I am reading hysterical posts about people quitting raiding due to the increased repair costs. Yeah, the repair costs are now about 10k each. However, the cost to repair at the launch of this game was a lot higher. Let's not mention the harder it was to grind credits since the game was brand new. I understand the constant grind of dallies gets old, but unfortunately that is what has to be done. If you want to progress in raiding, well you are going to have to put some extra time into making the money.

This game is attracting more and more of the "entitled" people who believe they should get everything for free. This is quite evident in this forums ranting about a decision that Bioware decided to implement. If this increased repair costs makes you complainers that angered or upset about how this game is being run, then please feel free to cancel your sub. You are not entitled to anything except access to play the game. Bioware does not have to give away free stuff. Bioware does not have to produce updates as quickly. Bioware does not have to come up with fun new world events. They simply do not owe you as a customer anything besides making sure the servers are avaliable. To you F2Pers. they owe you absolutely nothing. Playing this game for free does not mean you get the same stuff that $15 a month subs do. Cant hide your head slot? That is what you get for paying not a single dime to play this game.

Please stop complaining about this game. If this game is as bad as many of you say it is, why in the world are you still logging on? There are many useful things to do then to play this game. Learn to view things in a positive way, not a negative way.

Useful tips or corrections are always preferred over "your game sucks."
Even though I agree that there are a lot of people who have entitlement issues, Im not so sure that this hike in repair costs is the real culprit. I think as time goes on people are beginning to get more and more frustrated with EAware which is making the peasants very restless.

Think about it. Besides a limited time event, what exactly did 1.7 bring to the table? More dailies for rehashed gear with a higher repair bill. Thats it. Its as if they are trying to get away with as little as possible.

It makes people throw their hands up as say: "We waited 10 weeks for THIS?"

I dont think EAware has done anything substantial for the game since Section X which really just boiled down to just more dailies, and Im pretty sure that Section X was in development since before launch, so its not like they were giving anything to the community that they were wanting. It was already on their to-do list.

People are beginning to feel spat on by EAware. It looks like EAware is more concerned with their Cash Store than they are about keeping thier paying subscribers happy.

And as far as people cancelling? They are. These people here on these forums that are threatening to cancel or Have canceled are just the vocal ones who use these forums. There are Plenty who actually DID cancel and just left quietly.

I play with my father, and his account expired yesterday. He didnt come here to make any big posts. He just quietly left. Mine is also cancelled but I still have 9 or 10 days left and then I will be gone too. Not to mention that a bunch of our guild decided to leave too. And it wasnt just because of repair costs.

The game and EAware has gone stale. The Cash Store is the new king. We wont be missed

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DarthVenizen
02.15.2013 , 08:25 PM | #639
Quote: Originally Posted by Pirana View Post
Not a conspiracy theory genius. Anytime a company decides to go free to play, said company will nickel and dime you anyway they can. It's a slippery slope. Learn business.
No, it is a conspiracy theory, they may try to nickle and dime you to death, but that doesn't mean that they create and fix imaginary bugs to suit their needs.


Unless you have intimate knowledge of their coding, and know for a fact that this was intentional, you cannot say that was what they actually did, you just end up spewing fictitious nonsense

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Hyfy
02.15.2013 , 08:27 PM | #640
Quote: Originally Posted by elvinlordryan View Post
To all the complainers,

You guys have yet again impressed me with you're stupidity. Have any one of you actually played the game at launch? Are you even paid subs?

I am reading hysterical posts about people quitting raiding due to the increased repair costs. Yeah, the repair costs are now about 10k each. However, the cost to repair at the launch of this game was a lot higher. Let's not mention the harder it was to grind credits since the game was brand new. I understand the constant grind of dallies gets old, but unfortunately that is what has to be done. If you want to progress in raiding, well you are going to have to put some extra time into making the money.

This game is attracting more and more of the "entitled" people who believe they should get everything for free. This is quite evident in this forums ranting about a decision that Bioware decided to implement. If this increased repair costs makes you complainers that angered or upset about how this game is being run, then please feel free to cancel your sub. You are not entitled to anything except access to play the game. Bioware does not have to give away free stuff. Bioware does not have to produce updates as quickly. Bioware does not have to come up with fun new world events. They simply do not owe you as a customer anything besides making sure the servers are avaliable. To you F2Pers. they owe you absolutely nothing. Playing this game for free does not mean you get the same stuff that $15 a month subs do. Cant hide your head slot? That is what you get for paying not a single dime to play this game.

Please stop complaining about this game. If this game is as bad as many of you say it is, why in the world are you still logging on? There are many useful things to do then to play this game. Learn to view things in a positive way, not a negative way.

Useful tips or corrections are always preferred over "your game sucks."
You don't read well do you? First I have been here since launch as well have many others that have stated so in this thread, but secondly you can only post on the forums if you have an active sub. F2P and Premiums can not post so your questions are not only ridiculous but you have clearly read next to nothing and want to come in here talking as if you have a clue.
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