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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)

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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)
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Drudenfusz
02.15.2013 , 06:08 PM | #621
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hey folks,

I just wanted to step in here to let you know that we are actively investigating this and we will update you as soon as we have more information. We apologize for the inconvenience, but rest assured that we're looking into it.
Hope that will not take too much time until we see results.
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Socialist
02.15.2013 , 06:13 PM | #622
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
27 days left to play the only part of SWTOR that I enjoyed. The General Forums Mini-game. So since I payed for it. Imma gonna use it.
I am in the same boat.

I wonder on how many subs is TOR sitting right now. Must be a pretty sad number.

Actually this whole game is a big tragedy. Had huge hopes since 200X, it looked so amazing, only to be a huge flop. A flop with EA written all over it.

At least the stories and novels are good, could have been a classic wasn't it a MMO. Quite sad if you ask me, I thought this would be the game of my life, a MMO I would be still picking up to casually raid or have fun some 5 years from now (like WoW). Quite sad
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Geobaz
02.15.2013 , 06:16 PM | #623
I fully agree with those who are very upset at the HUGE escalation in repair costs. It will really put an end to my willingness to join pickup groups for raiding. And that will greatly lessen my enjoyment of this game. If it becomes a JOB for me to have to run extra daily missions because I need to repair my gear then my days playing this game are probably numbered.

I hope this issue is addressed immediately.

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MoobooMagoo
02.15.2013 , 06:49 PM | #624
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
This affects new players. I have a 29 Shadow (tank) in orange gear. In that orange gear, I have level-appropriate armoring, mods, and enhancements. One death cost me a few hundred before the patch . Now it costs me almost 9,000. Tell me, what player who just started the game and has ONE level 29 character can afford 9,000 per death? They can certainly get the gear by doing the heroic planetary quests and flash points...



Normally I'd reiterate my request for you to answer my question before I answer yours...

I've never seen any reports of players paying 10x what others do for repairing the same level gear with the same level of damage, so I don't really buy your point?

Now please answer my question. Why is this change good for the game? Please keep in mind that it affects all players at all levels; don't just limit your answer to a specific, small subset of the players, please.
You just told us you did. According to you a level 30 player with level appropriate gear pays 9,000 credits per wipe.

I am in full Rakata and I don't even pay that much per wipe.
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Darth__Carnal
02.15.2013 , 06:55 PM | #625
I don't care what your stance is on this topic.

63 pages in 2 days, should be evidence enough that Bioware needs to address this issue and quickly.
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AshlaBoga
02.15.2013 , 07:03 PM | #626
Quote: Originally Posted by Lostpenguins View Post
I stopped reading here since it started with a lie.

Okay, I picked one - "dailies".

Please let me know how I "can make a couple million in a night" with "diligence" doing dailies.

Basically... you can't. So... we're done here.
You can make 400k/toon. You'd have to do them 2.5 times (so on at least 2 toons) to get 1M. Moreover, I'd say dailies net you 125k/hr. So it would take EIGHT hours to grind that out. Eight hours is a full Night Shift. That doesn't sound fun at all.
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Daedahl
02.15.2013 , 07:06 PM | #627
Quote: Originally Posted by Soxbadger View Post
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The only other thing would be that somehow legacy armor is costing more, and that there is truth that a fancier shell is equating to cost, even though there is no performance gain.
I just did a quick test. The legacy armor shell does cost more. Probably because the inherent cost to purchase makes them have a higher value. I tested dieing with only 1 piece of gear on. A head piece.

I tested it with the Agent's Exalted Headgear and with a Synthmesh Battle Headgear. I tested with and without mods (enhancement and mod were 23s and the armor was 22). I ensured both pieces of gear had the same durability for the same test.

Without mods:
Legacy Exalted Gear (90/100 value 8385) - 838
Synthmesh (90/100 value 580) - 58

With mods:
Legacy Gear (89/100 value 13285) - 1461
Synthmesh (89/100 value 5480) - 602

My guess is they added the cost of the shell back into the cost of the repair, whereas before it was just the cost of the mods that were the repair cost. Expensive shells (I believe the legacy gear is over 1 million for the level 20 gear set) are costing significantly more to repair now.

I would also theorize that the more expensive the mods the less the shell cost weighs into it. For example I tested with a set of generic mid range mods and the values were:
Legacy Gear (90/100 value 9005) - 900
Synthmesh (90/100 value 1200) - 120

So the values of the objects get closer together as the mods become higher valued (which makes sense).

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elvinlordryan
02.15.2013 , 07:13 PM | #628
To all the complainers,

You guys have yet again impressed me with you're stupidity. Have any one of you actually played the game at launch? Are you even paid subs?

I am reading hysterical posts about people quitting raiding due to the increased repair costs. Yeah, the repair costs are now about 10k each. However, the cost to repair at the launch of this game was a lot higher. Let's not mention the harder it was to grind credits since the game was brand new. I understand the constant grind of dallies gets old, but unfortunately that is what has to be done. If you want to progress in raiding, well you are going to have to put some extra time into making the money.

This game is attracting more and more of the "entitled" people who believe they should get everything for free. This is quite evident in this forums ranting about a decision that Bioware decided to implement. If this increased repair costs makes you complainers that angered or upset about how this game is being run, then please feel free to cancel your sub. You are not entitled to anything except access to play the game. Bioware does not have to give away free stuff. Bioware does not have to produce updates as quickly. Bioware does not have to come up with fun new world events. They simply do not owe you as a customer anything besides making sure the servers are avaliable. To you F2Pers. they owe you absolutely nothing. Playing this game for free does not mean you get the same stuff that $15 a month subs do. Cant hide your head slot? That is what you get for paying not a single dime to play this game.

Please stop complaining about this game. If this game is as bad as many of you say it is, why in the world are you still logging on? There are many useful things to do then to play this game. Learn to view things in a positive way, not a negative way.

Useful tips or corrections are always preferred over "your game sucks."

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Pirana
02.15.2013 , 07:14 PM | #629
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hey folks,

I just wanted to step in here to let you know that we are actively investigating this and we will update you as soon as we have more information. We apologize for the inconvenience, but rest assured that we're looking into it.
This was nothing more than a unscrupulous attempt that BW tried to slip by people in the guise of a bug, intended or not. I have no doubt it would have ultimately affected the Cartel Shop, directly or indirectly. Sugar coat this any way you like, it was a poor business decision.

Now that people are not only threatening to leave the game, but are actually canceling their subscriptions, you will get back to us when you have more information. aka "oops, that didn't work"

I'm sure most of us do not want a free ride, but most of us also have lives, and don't sit behind the keyboard twelve hours a day.

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DarthVenizen
02.15.2013 , 07:39 PM | #630
Quote: Originally Posted by Pirana View Post
This was nothing more than a unscrupulous attempt that BW tried to slip by people in the guise of a bug, intended or not. I have no doubt it would have ultimately affected the Cartel Shop, directly or indirectly. Sugar coat this any way you like, it was a poor business decision.

Now that people are not only threatening to leave the game, but are actually canceling their subscriptions, you will get back to us when you have more information. aka "oops, that didn't work"

I'm sure most of us do not want a free ride, but most of us also have lives, and don't sit behind the keyboard twelve hours a day.

Regards
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