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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)

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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)
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Vandicus
02.15.2013 , 02:36 PM | #541
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Incorrect. Level 29 in all oranges with all level appropriate mods. One death about 1/3 into a flash point (as a tank) got an 8,800 credit repair bill. That's WAY outta whack with anything a level 29 could reasonably be expected to afford once, let alone multiple times.
This I say is a glitch(assuming that you hadn't accrued repair costs previously and simply neglected to repair them). That's roughly equivalent to what an Assassin in full BH currently pays, and more than what one in Rakata pays currently. That's also totally out of line with what my higher level alts of any class are paying.
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02.15.2013 , 02:36 PM | #542
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
He may be obsessive, he may even be offensive, and yeah, one could accuse him of being harsh

.....but he is absolutely correct in his assessment of this debacle. ;p

.....and you didn't go back far enough. Unreal has always been harsh, but he has never been a liar. I can also validate his claim that he was once a staunch supporter of this game, as was I.
FFS if you're both leaving, who am I going to forum-spar with?
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02.15.2013 , 02:38 PM | #543
People are unbelievable.

Complaining about a moderate increase in repair costs for a game that otherwise has NO death penalty is silly--especially in game that gives credits away.

Others have pointed out the plethora of ways these so-called "expensive" repair bills can be paid for with mere minutes of work. The "I have a life" excuse is baseless.

But, again, there is no other death penalty. Had the prices been set where they currently are at launch, no one would have noticed or cared.

However, like everything else, people have to feel entitled.

In the end, it's just another silly excuse people use to drama-queen quit.
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DarthTHC
02.15.2013 , 02:38 PM | #544
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
This I say is a glitch(assuming that you hadn't accrued repair costs previously and simply neglected to repair them). That's roughly equivalent to what an Assassin in full BH currently pays, and more than what one in Rakata pays currently. That's also totally out of line with what my higher level alts of any class are paying.
Definitely not a glitch. I stop at the repair droid at the entry to every flash point to ensure I'm full up. I didn't have to repair at the start of that one. It's damage from about 1/3 of the instance plus one death. That's it.

I had already heard about the issues on the forums that day, so I paid close attention.
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02.15.2013 , 02:38 PM | #545
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
FFS if you're both leaving, who am I going to forum-spar with?
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Vandicus
02.15.2013 , 02:39 PM | #546
Quote: Originally Posted by Lent_San View Post
How about you stop trolling? What's your productive value to this thread? He has a point and he's not alone in his complaint. I think it's fair to say the vast majority of players don't dig the changes, so you calling him out achieves what exactly?
I would argue that the vast majority of the players are completely ignorant of the changes. BSN could be a case study for how different the forumites are from the general population. BSN polls roughly 50% of people view the ability to choose another race in the DA series determines a purchase or not, while internal metrics showed that over 90% of players of DA:O only ever played a single human character. To assume that a forum reflects the general population is a precarious position to take at best.
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slafko
02.15.2013 , 02:39 PM | #547
Quote: Originally Posted by translucentwolf View Post
I keep seeing these apocalyptic 'you've lost my subscription' posts. And yet... I keep seeing them.
You do realise that the vast majority of people that have cancelled subscriptions have days left in their subscriber status? Oh wait, you just realised it. You're welcome.

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DarthTHC
02.15.2013 , 02:40 PM | #548
Quote: Originally Posted by Alphasgimaone View Post
People are unbelievable.

Complaining about a moderate increase in repair costs for a game that otherwise has NO death penalty is silly--especially in game that gives credits away.

Others have pointed out the plethora of ways these so-called "expensive" repair bills can be paid for with mere minutes of work. The "I have a life" excuse is baseless.

But, again, there is no other death penalty. Had the prices been set where they currently are at launch, no one would have noticed or cared.

However, like everything else, people have to feel entitled.

In the end, it's just another silly excuse people use to drama-queen quit.


Have you raided? Do you know how much money in repair bills a raider incurs in a night when they're working on new content?

What's your favorite method of making credits? How many ingame "minutes" does it take you to recover one night's worth of raid progression?

How many level 29 characters do you know - who have ZERO 50's - that can afford 8,800 credit repair bills for each death?
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Urael
02.15.2013 , 02:40 PM | #549
Quote: Originally Posted by translucentwolf View Post
Search function, FTW.

You've made over 500 posts ( engine limits to 500 returns ) in 2 months.

A quick review of them notes that they're basically all negative.

If you'd stop trolling on the 'general board mini-game' and play the *actual* game, you might enjoy it.

I'm calling you a troll, cause you're a troll.
Limitations of a substandard search engine. I have pretty much posted daily since 20Dec2011. Not my fault that the full history of the forums is not visable via the search tool presented.

Your "research" is limited and your "causal" linkage is flawed. I did "play the heck" out of the game. I "enjoyed" what I played until I couldn't effectively play anymore. Patch 1.4 degraded my play due to nVidia graphics drivers and the "graphics enhancements" it never returned to pre-1.4 (and somehow around that time new drivers increased my WoW game play go figure ... ). I payed months of subscription after that waiting for a fix. Still to this date I am still in a "hitching" and degraded state. I can only solo, if more than a few people are shooting things I freeze so no war zones for me or ops. While I mainly solo this hasn't been too much of an issue, but I nolonger have the "option" of fully participating in all that SWTOR has to offer. Months of paying a sub. Waiting. Nothing. Now with the FFA PvP and all the jerks that it brings out and the untoward repair costs. How much more time should I give EA/EAware? Yeah I think in the end you and your ilk are the true trolls. You only offer strawmen and paltitudes with no substance for what passes for argument.

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02.15.2013 , 02:40 PM | #550
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Definitely not a glitch. I stop at the repair droid at the entry to every flash point to ensure I'm full up. I didn't have to repair at the start of that one. It's damage from about 1/3 of the instance plus one death. That's it.

I had already heard about the issues on the forums that day, so I paid close attention.
Sorry, wrong terminology, meant a bug, not a glitch one time thing but something wrong that is charging your character for some reason well above the target baseline they meant to establish with this patch.

*EDIT

Actually has anyone else tried repairing in a fp or ops recently and seen unusually high costs? Purple moddable shells have already been identified as one possible cause, might be that repairing in specific locations can also cause higher than desired repair costs.
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