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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)

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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)
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willybot
02.15.2013 , 01:25 PM | #491
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post
Hey folks,

I just wanted to step in here to let you know that we are actively investigating this and we will update you as soon as we have more information. We apologize for the inconvenience, but rest assured that we're looking into it.
Investigating? GTN farmers were making too many credits purchasing Cartel Packs and selling it contents at inflated prices. In your unholy fear of inflation you 'corrected' the market by raising repair costs, sort of like a release valve. When anger is sufficient and the head-less chicken you consult for your economy give the right signs, you'll lower back down for a few months and repeat.

It isn't a great mystery Clouseau.

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Vandicus
02.15.2013 , 01:26 PM | #492
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
They didn't do it in less than a week either, though. It took them 2 months. A whole patch.

Joveth can't hit any buttons to lower the cost for us, and looking at the past history of things going on in this game, the repairs could in fact be higher than they intended for reasons they weren't aware of.
I still have yet to see evidence of some of outrageous repair costs that people are claiming(and plenty to indicate that repair prices are around what they should be, not too much more than before). That suggests to me either people are trying to create mass hysteria or that there is a bug going around. I tried to engage DarthTHC in a conversation about this possibility earlier in this thread when he reported higher repair costs per death on his lowbie assassin alt than a 50 in black hole gear pays per death, but unless some attempt is made to narrow down how these reports of exorbitant repair costs come about, all that's being created is a panic. There was another thread about the legacy unlock personal transport situation where the posters(myself included) quickly did some tests to narrow down what created the bug, and as a result there's already a dev sticky addressing the bug and the specific method we used to recreate it. These panic threads haven't done much to identify the problem at all though, since its obfuscated the situation with people reporting normal repair costs and acting as though they are exorbitant, mixed in with people reporting high repair costs from multiple deaths without providing proper info.
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Lostpenguins
02.15.2013 , 01:30 PM | #493
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Why would they approach that particular lesson any differently than they approached any other lesson throughout the entire game?
Exactly. I still laugh because there's an old quote from one of the lead designers that said something like, "If you're not copying WoW to some extent, you're not doing it right." I forget the exact wording, but basically he was trying to answer the debate of people complaining they didn't want "another WoW clone". His response was basically a "it's a good thing to learn the mistakes and achievements of your predecessors."

And yet, where is the ready check? Lol...

Point being, they need to star with i63 gear (or I guess i65 for the droid items)... base one wipe with augmented gear to be X amount of credits (I'd say 7 credits, but that's just me). Then reduce accordingly.

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Lostpenguins
02.15.2013 , 01:31 PM | #494
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
I still have yet to see evidence of some of outrageous repair costs that people are claiming(and plenty to indicate that repair prices are around what they should be, not too much more than before). That suggests to me either people are trying to create mass hysteria or that there is a bug going around. I tried to engage DarthTHC in a conversation about this possibility earlier in this thread when he reported higher repair costs per death on his lowbie assassin alt than a 50 in black hole gear pays per death, but unless some attempt is made to narrow down how these reports of exorbitant repair costs come about, all that's being created is a panic. There was another thread about the legacy unlock personal transport situation where the posters(myself included) quickly did some tests to narrow down what created the bug, and as a result there's already a dev sticky addressing the bug and the specific method we used to recreate it. These panic threads haven't done much to identify the problem at all though, since its obfuscated the situation with people reporting normal repair costs and acting as though they are exorbitant, mixed in with people reporting high repair costs from multiple deaths without providing proper info.
I'll say this. I'm in full DG gear with full augments. pre-patch it was 7k for a wipe. Now it's 10k. I do think that is a bit much. 7k felt right.

How about that?

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Jeweledleah
02.15.2013 , 01:33 PM | #495
what I'm trying to understand is - what is the point of replying to yellow posts with: "too late, I'm still gone" are you trying to encourage them not to fix things because what's the point if people will leave whether they change things or don't? how is this in any way, shape or form productive?
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astrobearx
02.15.2013 , 01:34 PM | #496
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
what I'm trying to understand is - what is the point of replying to yellow posts with: "too late, I'm still gone" are you trying to encourage them not to fix things because what's the point if people will leave whether they change things or don't? how is this in any way, shape or form productive?

this dude got a point, i mean i want this repair thing to be fix, so let not poke the bear plz?

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chuixupu
02.15.2013 , 01:35 PM | #497
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Why would they approach that particular lesson any differently than they approached any other lesson throughout the entire game?
^ exactly, lol. We all know they learned from all Blizzard's many mistakes before launch...not.

And Blizzard doesn't always learn from their own either, I can't help by scratch my head for every new set of changes and balances that come out every month or so. I'm not sure what's worse, Bioware not really doing anything or Blizzard messing with this non-stop yet never really reaching any balance.


Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
I still have yet to see evidence of some of outrageous repair costs that people are claiming(and plenty to indicate that repair prices are around what they should be, not too much more than before). That suggests to me either people are trying to create mass hysteria or that there is a bug going around.
Well, they definitely went up for me, but not to the degree that I've seen some people claim. It seems my repair costs have essentially doubled. But they aren't outrageous by any means. A night of wiping on progression now is maybe 90-110k. Before it was like 40-60k.
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Urael
02.15.2013 , 01:36 PM | #498
Quote: Originally Posted by translucentwolf View Post
I keep seeing these apocalyptic 'you've lost my subscription' posts. And yet... I keep seeing them.

I look forward to seeing you unsub again after the next patch.
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Jami
02.15.2013 , 01:40 PM | #499
I belong to a small guild and we run ops and have noticed the huge increase in repair costs we are trying to figure a way around it to continue to run them. the repair cost use to be about 10k and now is double. this is a big issue for small guilds and casual players. this has to be fixed. it connot contiue this way. it is making it much harder to run ops or hardnmodes or even leveling up. bioware has to fix and resolve this issue.

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Ratajack
02.15.2013 , 01:41 PM | #500
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
27 days left to play the only part of SWTOR that I enjoyed. The General Forums Mini-game. So since I payed for it. Imma gonna use it.
I fully expect to be reading your posts made Mar 15 and forward.