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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)

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A Summary of Increased Repair Cost Problems (for BW/EA)
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Levity
02.14.2013 , 03:18 PM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVenizen View Post
Basically the same thing here.

Double ticking lightning balls, invisible lightning balls, throwing people as platforms started to drop, having to destroy those pylons in a specific order otherwise he'd still be invulnerable after the platforms dropped, tank getting mind trapped and soa resetting........ *shudder* no thx
I remember the night I downed him NM. It was 3 hours of whipes, the tank died and he was enraged with like 2 % and the healers went down. The dps was still up and started to die, 1 smugg came through though. HENDAR I WILL REMEMBER YOU. Needless to say that day... I woke my neighbors.

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DarthVenizen
02.14.2013 , 03:19 PM | #232
Quote: Originally Posted by Elfindreams View Post
The first thing out of my mouth when they did that was, **** awesome! I remember dealing with EV NM in its buggy incarnation, nothing funny about those repair costs. Of course now it is too easy but that is why there is EC NM.
let me explain why i hated the low repair costs:
It meant my gulidies that liked to **** around and do stupid ****, could do it more often and we had less legitimate reason to ***** at them for being dumb, because we could wipe 20 times without equaling the cost of 1 wipe before.

I also just didn't like the feeling of "if i die it really doesn't matter we can go in again easy" it promoted lazy play

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Kiniski
02.14.2013 , 03:19 PM | #233
Well for who "defend" this think about, only between my friends, 75 of them cancell the subscription and move on, included me, I'm also asking for refund the money for expansion, only between my friends, so 75 players not going to pay anymore for the game, what the "defenders" of the patch think about this? if nobody pay for the game, you going to defend a down servers, think about it.

I going to wait 48 hours to cancell my subscription to see if they fix this, if not, bye bye swtor.

I'm a tier 2 lvl 50, and die 3 times yeterday because a n00b in the op, I pay 70k in repairs, one of level 63 pay near 180k, i have 2 credits left in my inventory. Next time, any Op or FP, or Raids, is going to be askin: "Only Veterans and report your gear level" so F2P players are excluded for any Op, Raid, or FP from the very begining, the group seracher is not going to help you, because when we see 2 colors armor, then you be going to be expulsed inmediately, and the first mistake, you going to be expeled, so, you going to have a tier "never". So, think about defend the expensive repairs, if you think high levels gain much credits, WRONG, that's absolutely false, I reach level 50 with 200k only, and the last FP and Op, I only have 2 credits, GTM prices make it you poor, sell amors? mods? after level 50 crafted mods or armors, or weapons are stupid, nothing is better than tiers. so think about it.

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DarthTHC
02.14.2013 , 03:19 PM | #234
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVenizen View Post
I hated that they got that low initially, but I adapted to it.

I don't care that they are this high now, because, i've adapted to it.

If you can't adapt to little **** like this how do you adapt when you lose your job or get dumped by someone?
It's a game. Forcing me to adapt into a "work-like" play style (i.e. grinding dailies) so I can do the fun things I want to do is not in any way comparable to forcing me to adapt to changing job conditions or any other thing I must do in real life.

I choose whether or not to play (and pay for) the game. Forcing me into a play style that is unfun forces me to rethink whether or not I want to continue to pay for the game.

A lot of other games have done that to me. I don't play them any more.

Your credibility is shot regardless. You're defending a fix to a problem even you didn't really believe existed. I can't imagine why you're doing that. Well, I can, but I'd get warned or banned for stating it.
Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. ~ Isaac Bashevis Singer

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Levity
02.14.2013 , 03:19 PM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by Elfindreams View Post
Really, wow I hadn't noticed the difference in cost... I hadn't switched to social gear on a few of my toons just because I use them to fill gaps in raids. *shrug* So I can see the benefit in fixing that, still if the reports people are having about 3x or more the cost are any indication, I think it needs to be adjusted down.
I just think it's more of an exaggeration. Each person needs to go and do a field check. I mean if you died a bunch beforehand and didn't think anything of it till this particular time you died and you went to repair and it was 30k. Yeah duh you died before.

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DarthVenizen
02.14.2013 , 03:21 PM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by Levity View Post
I remember the night I downed him NM. It was 3 hours of whipes, the tank died and he was enraged with like 2 % and the healers went down. The dps was still up and started to die, 1 smugg came through though. HENDAR I WILL REMEMBER YOU. Needless to say that day... I woke my neighbors.
When we downed NM soa I believe i was the last one standing because people got hit by **** and our melee stood too close for the artifact drop so he was attackable, he got down to 1% right when he was about to go into his invulnerable shield and enrage, i popped the offensive relic i had, popped recklessnes, used shock and assassinate then our whole vent just cheered..... oh man the feels

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DarthTHC
02.14.2013 , 03:22 PM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by Kiniski View Post
Well for who "defend" this think about, only between my friends, 75 of thems cancell the subscription and move on, included me, I'm also asking for refund the money for expansion, only between my friends, so 75 players not going to pay anymore for the game, what the "defenders" of the patch think about this? if nobody pay for the game, you going to defend a down servers, think about it.

I going to wait 48 hours to cancell my subscription to see if they fix this, if not, bye bye swtor.

I'm a tier 2 lvl 50, and die 3 times yeterday because a n00b in the op, I pay 70k in repairs, one of level 63 pay near 180k, i have 2 credits left in my inventory. Next time, any Op or FP, or Raids, is going to be askin: "Only Veterans and report your gear level" so F2P players are excluded for any Op, Raid, or FP from the very begining, the group seracher is not going to help you, because when we see 2 colors armor, then you be going to be expulsed inmediately, and the first mistake, you going to be expeled, so, you going to have a tier "never". So, think about defend the expensive repairs, if you think high levels gain much credits, WRONG, that's absolutely false, I reach level 50 with 200k only, and the last FP and Op, I only have 2 credits, GTM prices make it you poor, sell amors? mods? after level 50 crafted mods or armors, or weapons are stupid, nothing is better than tiers. so think about it.


That's exactly what they want - a situation that creates a very large gap between the "mensch" and the "elite", and they view themselves as the "elite". Very toxic to a game.
Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought. ~ Isaac Bashevis Singer

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Levity
02.14.2013 , 03:23 PM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVenizen View Post
When we downed NM soa I believe i was the last one standing because people got hit by **** and our melee stood too close for the artifact drop so he was attackable, he got down to 1% right when he was about to go into his invulnerable shield and enrage, i popped the offensive relic i had, popped recklessnes, used shock and assassinate then our whole vent just cheered..... oh man the feels
Yeah I know it man. I haven't delved into the new NM modes for EC and TFB but I hope they bring the same satisfaction.

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Elfindreams
02.14.2013 , 03:29 PM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by Levity View Post
Yeah I know it man. I haven't delved into the new NM modes for EC and TFB but I hope they bring the same satisfaction.
No NM for TFB yet I don't think... EC NM can feel that way yes. Vorgath is the same pushover he was with a few new twists... The tanks and Kephess are brutal.
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Urael
02.14.2013 , 03:29 PM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Two more for you:

An entire swath of experienced players who otherwise would have run multiple flash points per day, teaching new players how to be better in the process, are no longer running any flash points.

Players are cancelling their subscriptions.
Indeed.

Not that you care EA & Bioware. Not that you care at all. As long as you have drones willing to buy the garbage you peddle in your CM Store.

I for one have been here since launch. Early access day one. I have not played regularly since patch 1.4 "graphics improvements". I already paid for Makeb. I am still leaving. I have wasted over a year of my "gamer life" with your sub standard product. I have played EQ, EQ2, AO, CoH/V, SWG (all 3 incarnations), L2, Matrix Online, and WoW. In all those games I do not regret a single second I spent there. I regret the entirety of the last year spent with your substandard product. This "event" and the repair costs are the final straw.

You have ruined your reputation as a producer of games worth playing Bioware. EA, I never trusted you. I will never purchase another one of your products.

Thank you for ruining the Star Wars IP. Enjoy the money I foolishly spent on your product in the hopes that it would improve. It has gone down hill since day one. SWTOR is a mockery of a AAA MMORPG. I will tell everyone I know to stay away from SWTOR and any MMORPG that is part of the EA stable.

You have my Email. Contact me there if you wish to discuss.