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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns

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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns
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OGsam
02.13.2013 , 01:18 AM | #2661
EAware needs to hurry up and get something done so this cesspool of a thread can be buried and forgotten.
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02.13.2013 , 01:24 AM | #2662
Quote: Originally Posted by Knockerz View Post
Maybe you should realize that there aren't enough of you to support a single server without mixing rp, pvp, and pve servers.
Eh i don't agree with this. Just too many fanbois running off to the US and EU.
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02.13.2013 , 01:25 AM | #2663
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
Sorry to disappoint you, I don't know who that person is. Maybe, just maybe, there are actually other people who think the same as me but are too afraid to speak up since they just get bullied by others here? I know of plenty who feel that way, and many more who just don't bother because of the constant whinging that happens here.

Also, please explain to me a solution that will stop people following groups of RPers and parking their mounts on top of us? Or spamming things like Force Quake under us? Love to know what your solution to that is...

Oh and please live up to your own example. You lambaste someone for providing an alternative solution (which frankly I support more than a mass merge) and tell them not to dictate a solution to us, yet you do the same to those who don't want to merge?
A good solution is to merge the PvP and PvE servers together and leave the RP server as is. If you guys are content the way you are, then you don't need to merge.

The PvP and PvE servers, however, cannot continue as they are. These players are ones focused on game progression and need the numbers where as the RP don't.

Maybe a merge of these two with the option for RPers to transfer to the new server, and players who want to transfer to the RP server.

Either way, we really need to focus on solving the problem, not arguing over what WE think is the best solution. There is a BEST solution and I don't think we have reached it yet, as Bioware hasn't made a reply, but everyone needs to remember that this may not be ideal for them personally.

(Just in case Ailie, only the first sentence was directed towards you, the rest is just a general statement )
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laz_AU
02.13.2013 , 01:37 AM | #2664
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
Also, please explain to me a solution that will stop people following groups of RPers and parking their mounts on top of us? Or spamming things like Force Quake under us? Love to know what your solution to that is...
I've recently had a few ideas about how we can accommodate RP's... Let me know what you guys think

A dedicated "RP instance"
On servers that actually have a population, they have multiple instances - like there may be 2 or 3 instances of the fleet and people in one instance can't see those in the other unless they are grouped.
Something similar could be implemented so that RP players can toggle into an "RP instance" on planets/fleet (by typing "/rp" or similar) and play there as long as they want doing RP stuff. In the unlikely occurrence that some douche feels the need to go to the trouble of purposely entering the RP instance just to troll, then he/she can be "vote kicked" from it by enough people typing "/rpkick Trolling******e".
Come to think of it a similar thing could be implemented for PVP players so they can have world PVP... though that's practically what flagging for PVP on a PVE server is like anyway i guess...


Dedicated RP chat channel
Ties in with the last idea in that you are automatically switched to the RP channel when you enter the RP instance. Or you can stay in the regular PVE instances and join the RP chat from there.


Group finder/warzone option - "Join RP groups only"
Players with this ticked will only be paired with other RP players.



So, as I've said before, this would be the optimal solution in my opinion...
1. Merge all the APAC servers into a single PVE server, implementing the above suggestions - The reasoning around this has been described many times. Keep the awesome latency, correct prime/op times, guilds, legacies and local community whilst boosting the population.

2. Offer FREE transfers FROM US servers TO the APAC server - A bid to get those APAC players that left or rolled on US servers due to the population issues, to come back.

3. Offer PAID transfers from the APAC server to US servers after a month or so - gives those who still hate PVE or have some other problem with the APAC server after some time trying it, an opportunity to get out. Could possibly make this process free for PVP and RP players if that's not too complicated.


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02.13.2013 , 01:46 AM | #2665
Quote: Originally Posted by Ailie View Post
Sorry to disappoint you, I don't know who that person is. Maybe, just maybe, there are actually other people who think the same as me but are too afraid to speak up since they just get bullied by others here? I know of plenty who feel that way, and many more who just don't bother because of the constant whinging that happens here.

Also, please explain to me a solution that will stop people following groups of RPers and parking their mounts on top of us? Or spamming things like Force Quake under us? Love to know what your solution to that is...

Oh and please live up to your own example. You lambaste someone for providing an alternative solution (which frankly I support more than a mass merge) and tell them not to dictate a solution to us, yet you do the same to those who don't want to merge?
I agree, that was a baseless comment. By the same logic all the people who want to merge would be doing it solely because one other person they all know feels that way

I was thinking about that kind of greifing. When you ignore someone they, and their powers effects, should be invisible to you. If you chose not to quit a PUG they happen to be in, you'de have to temporarily acknowledge their existence though . . . but who wouldn't rather quit the PUG?!?
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02.13.2013 , 01:47 AM | #2666
Quote: Originally Posted by Spinikar View Post
A good solution is to merge the PvP and PvE servers together and leave the RP server as is. If you guys are content the way you are, then you don't need to merge.

The PvP and PvE servers, however, cannot continue as they are. These players are ones focused on game progression and need the numbers where as the RP don't.

Maybe a merge of these two with the option for RPers to transfer to the new server, and players who want to transfer to the RP server.

Either way, we really need to focus on solving the problem, not arguing over what WE think is the best solution. There is a BEST solution and I don't think we have reached it yet, as Bioware hasn't made a reply, but everyone needs to remember that this may not be ideal for them personally.

(Just in case Ailie, only the first sentence was directed towards you, the rest is just a general statement )
I doubt it will work. Players who play on pve server will not want to play on the new merge server if the new serve were to be a pvp server. The same is true of players on pvp server playing on a pve server. Both solutions will cause a lot of discontent and most likely high number of players quitting. Finally, if whenever BW allows transfers off server there will be little point in merging the server if players transfer off and the server once again becomes a low pop server.

I'm not going to sugar coat it for you, but some times there are only bad choices, then it's a question of selecting the best bad choice. What your asking for is a solution to your server problem that is not feasible. If there were a solution BW would at very least have mention it. The same problem wow faces with low pop mirrors your apac/oceanic server, but nothing gets done because server mergers always results in customers quitting for various reason and is always a negative effect overall for all the customers who were in the merge. Now that is a normal merger like a pve servers into one server. I can only imagine that a merge between rp, pvp, or pve will have more of negative effect and graters loss of customers than normal merge.
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iheartnyc
02.13.2013 , 02:11 AM | #2667
Quote: Originally Posted by Amlici View Post
Eh i don't agree with this. Just too many fanbois running off to the US and EU.
Fanbois eh? How about just wanting new people to play with instead of the same 30 people in the same warzones over and over again? And even if we merged Master D and Dalborra, it will not come close to being the same size as some of the US/EU servers.

You want someone to be mad at? Blame your former guildies and those on your friends' list who unsubscribed starting back in January 2012. Or be smart and blame Bioware for releasing a buggy game and being slow with updates with just about anything in the game. And blame Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, Planetside 2, Mass Effect 3 or whatever game people left to play instead of trolling on an empty server waiting 30 minutes for a que to pop.

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Amlici
02.13.2013 , 02:19 AM | #2668
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
Fanbois eh? How about just wanting new people to play with instead of the same 30 people in the same warzones over and over again? And even if we merged Master D and Dalborra, it will not come close to being the same size as some of the US/EU servers.
Don't worry man idm i played wow for years im use to US mmos that care about themselves first and foremost.
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DuckimusPrime
02.13.2013 , 02:24 AM | #2669
Quote: Originally Posted by Knockerz View Post
The same is true of players on pvp server playing on a pve server. Both solutions will cause a lot of discontent and most likely high number of players quitting.
Really? The PVP server is so lacking in population that the players on there have very little options for Open World PVP. If they were truly missing that, they likely would've rerolled on a more populous server long ago. The advantage for them with the greater population will be more people available for Warzones.

Also your statement about the opinions of those players, does seem to disagree with what most of the MDN players are posting in this thread.

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darthnish
02.13.2013 , 02:45 AM | #2670
what i want is a confirmation, closure in fact, if they say no, deal with it , ill just play my sorc on the EU servers and curse bioware everyday or they can make all of us happy and open transfers.