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Episode I better than II or III

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Smashbrother
02.12.2013 , 06:38 PM | #31
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Oh I don't know...

BECAUSE THEY ARE DIRECT PREQUELS. It's not about the plot, that's only part of the mess. I can't do it any better than red letter media and if I try to repeat it all here I'm just going to typing a lot.

Go do yourself a favor and watch the red letter media clips. It pretty much covers every angle. Nothing in the prequels makes any damn sense when paired against the original movies.
You don't need to have seen either trilogy to understand or watch the other. There is no reason to compare them.

And I have watched all the Plinkett reviews for the prequels and they're funny as hell, but alot of his complaints stem from comparing the two trilogies.


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Please describe Mace Windu to me. Go ahead, describe him. And I'm not talking about the robes or his skin.
Easy.

Bad a s s mutha fuc ka.

I'll do one better and describe all the other major characters too.

Padme - brave, devoted, and curious
Qui-Gonn Jinn - defiant, rogueish, and dashing
Obi-Wan - disciplined, reliable, and honorable
Anakin - whiny, avaricious, and brilliant
Palpatine - genius, powerful, and manipulative
Yoda - stoic, stern, and erudite

Just because the 4 idiots Plinkett interviews couldn't describe any of the characters, doesn't mean nobody else can.

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Wolfninjajedi
02.12.2013 , 07:04 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Smashbrother View Post
You don't need to have seen either trilogy to understand or watch the other. There is no reason to compare them.

And I have watched all the Plinkett reviews for the prequels and they're funny as hell, but alot of his complaints stem from comparing the two trilogies.




Easy.

Bad a s s mutha fuc ka.

I'll do one better and describe all the other major characters too.

Padme - brave, devoted, and curious
Qui-Gonn Jinn - defiant, rogueish, and dashing
Obi-Wan - disciplined, reliable, and honorable
Anakin - whiny, avaricious, and brilliant
Palpatine - genius, powerful, and manipulative
Yoda - stoic, stern, and erudite

Just because the 4 idiots Plinkett interviews couldn't describe any of the characters, doesn't mean nobody else can.
Eh I would actually call Anakin more a deeply troubled man then whiny, I mean he was a slave, then he lost his mother, then he was fearing of losing his wife. But then again, I suppose you could characterize a number of characters in different ways.
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Smashbrother
02.12.2013 , 09:09 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Eh I would actually call Anakin more a deeply troubled man then whiny, I mean he was a slave, then he lost his mother, then he was fearing of losing his wife. But then again, I suppose you could characterize a number of characters in different ways.
Other characters in other movies have done "deeply troubled" and it doesn't look anything like Anakin's whinyness. I suppose that could just be the terrible acting or dialogue of the prequels though, and not the char's fault.

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Wolfninjajedi
02.12.2013 , 09:46 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Smashbrother View Post
Other characters in other movies have done "deeply troubled" and it doesn't look anything like Anakin's whinyness. I suppose that could just be the terrible acting or dialogue of the prequels though, and not the char's fault.
I saw him more as troubled/guilt ridden/frustrated then anything else honestly.
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Smashbrother
02.13.2013 , 01:43 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
I saw him more as troubled/guilt ridden/frustrated then anything else honestly.
Well I guess you're more lenient in this instance. I hated all things Anakin in the prequels. The kid version was terribly acted and annoying, and the adult version was terribly acted and annoying lol.

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Zaxem
02.13.2013 , 02:46 AM | #36
i'm probally one of the only people that liked anakin the most and didn't think he was whinny at al but i did like obi better than episode 1 or 2 anakin better but episode 3 version was my favorite
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Wolfninjajedi
02.13.2013 , 09:38 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Smashbrother View Post
Well I guess you're more lenient in this instance. I hated all things Anakin in the prequels. The kid version was terribly acted and annoying, and the adult version was terribly acted and annoying lol.
/shrugs, opinions we all have em, but that is kinda proving the point of being able to characterize the characters in different ways.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

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sevenex
02.13.2013 , 10:20 AM | #38
I know that the shortcomings of the prequel trilogy are well documented and, for the most part, I agree with what others have already pointed out. I do, however, find them entertaining. I just go into them knowing that they are not going to be as good as the original trilogy and enjoy them for what they are.

I like episode 1, but I think I still like episode 3 a little bit better. I think episode 3 should have been the hands down winner, but it suffers a bit from the set up of episode 2. I just felt like I was supposed to like Anakin more. His fall to the darkside was supposed to illicit more of an emotional response from me, but I was almost grateful for the transition because I really didn't like his character much before the switch. To me, a lot of that is because of episode 2. That's when he is supposed to establish himself as the hero. I know that I said I can enjoy the prequels for what they are, but I just can't stand episode 2. To me, it's just a poorly made movie and to make things worse, episode 3 suffers because of how much episode 2 fails to set the stage.

I like episode 1. I like Qui Gon and I like Maul. I like the pod racing scene, although, it should have been a bit shorter. I can ignore Jar Jar. I still like episode 3 a bit more.

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Beniboybling
02.13.2013 , 03:09 PM | #39
This is very interesting, and its nice to see some people coming out in support of the prequels, which compared with other sci-fi (and action films altogether) are pretty amazing. However while I like all the films Episode I is my least favourite for various reasons.

I do however think its got one of the best, if not the best lightsaber fight sequences in the entire saga. I also really like Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon and the political intrigue surrounding Palpatine. And Darth Maul makes an epic villain and is even more epic in TCW. It could have been better done though.

My favourite prequel film, and my favourite Star Wars film, is Episode III. Its just pure none stop epicness. I love the opening space scene, that is unparrelled by any other. And I thought Grievous was a perfect, archetypal, moustache twirling villain to act as an antithesis to Sidious' and Dooku's scheming personas. And then there's Grievous vs Obi-Wan, Anakin's Fall, Order 66, Operation: Knightfall, Sidious kicking butt in his office, Yoda vs Sidious, Anakin vs Obi-Wan, the rise of Darth Vader and the Death Star! All crammed into one awesome, seamless production! I really do think Lucas pulled it out of the bag in that one.

Oh and one more thing, and this may come as a shock to many. But guess what? I like Hayden Christensen! Not just that but I rate him pretty high, all the way down to his accent, which has an alien 'Star Warsy' feel to it. He's certainly better than Mark Hamill ever was. I think he plays the role of Anakin Skywalker really well, everyone seems to present him as a whiny emo, but in less pejorative terms he is meant to be exactly that. He's a frustrated, angry, emotional youth who wants to be powerful and feels everyone around him is holding him back, And Hayden pulls that off really well, a favourite scene is when he kills the Sandpeople as says to Padme "I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!" Awesomely performed. And then all the dialogue and acting on Mustafar. Really, what's not to love!

FInal point, the whole point of the prequels was to look at 'the good guys' in a different light, and present them in a different light which makes you think 'who really are the bad guys'? So in a sense there is no real 'hero figure' - however Anakin is something of a tragic hero. And Obi-Wan and Padme are pretty heroic.

People are probably raging at me right now but whatever, because guess what? I enjoyed the prequels whereas you didn't. So I can watch the entire saga with a smile on my face and you can't - sucks to be you!

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Kharnamatic
02.15.2013 , 10:04 PM | #40
I was just rewatching the prequels because of this thread and Episode I has a HUGE plot hole. Why doesn't Qui-Gon just contact the Jedi Council on Tatooine and avoid all that Anakin-podrace hoopla?