Welcome to Game Update 1.7: Return of the Gree

I have no problems with the PvP side of it, you're not forced to go into the PvP zone and I actually like the free for all approach, it stops the zerg fests that were Illum and means you can have some fun skirmishes.

What really annoys me is that for those of us that actually do like to PvP its pointless. 1 quest that gives 100 comms, no valor for kills whats the point? People are only going to do stuff thats rewarding and this PvP just isnt.
so really who was this patch and update for?

Not for PvE'ers who dont like feeling that they're forced into PvP
Not for PvP'ers who get no reward for their preferred style of play (or a style of play they certainly enjoy)

Basically we got a reputation system grind implemented - and the rewards for that mostly appear to be re-hashes of stuff from elsewhere.

Ok so how do you get the things for aquiring the Gree Helix Cannon and the other weapons?

I would assume this is more of a way to have the skirmishes without favoring a side that has more numbers.

My 2 cents:

- I've seen unflagged people stand in the middle Pylon area, beautful exploit

- Guilds will be split into 2-3 PvP groups and can and will harras/control the area (pylon, gree destroyer)

- Pylon (and some mobs) reset timer is way too long, specially since you have to turn orb by orb, all 4 of them

- FFA PvP belongs to a new type of Warzone, not on a PvE servers, even if you can skip those PvP quests

- Assassins everywhere bored/paranoid/dumb will kill you so many times for no apparent reason

Reputation is hardly new......this system was developed in circa 1999 by SOE in one of the first MMO's....EQ.
They call it faction.

Olol, PVE quests in a PVP zone.

I was actually hoping it was going to be faction vs faction with PVP based objectives. Instead it's bring a 4 man group ffa and get attacked by premades while trying to do the quests. If people had to go in there solo without companiions, that'd be a little better. Also, my server has imp vs imp violence going on in the centre but I'm not so sure about rep vs rep. Reps might be leaving each other alone and focusing imps. Thus, another fault.

Also have guilds camping centre on my servery, yay.

Yea, that's what I was thinking.


As for class balances; Oh I'm quite dissapointed they haven't nerfed bubble stun yet. I am so bloody sick of that crap. Just sick of spending half a WZ stunned and in most cases, if it wasn't for rage smashes, I'd feel useless to my team. Speaking of which, nerfing the damage on rage smashes won't stop four warriors from devestating a team. I personally say it's better to switch rage's focus from smash to force scream. And I do believe assualt/pyro is still a problem. Easy rotation that easily rapes.


Also, dissapointed with rehashed gear that was given a different texture. Does not feel worth the effort to get any of the gear. So, all in all, dissapointed with this latest patch.

it's new content, it's fast paced and it requires pubs to group up more than we normally seem to do (got jumped by 5 imps - 5 on 1 - grouped with some pubs who were just as sick of it and started tearing the imp premades apart, awesome run).

does the pvp stuns/smash/resolve system need to be re-balanced? Yes it does.

it this a reputation grind? Yes it is.

is 1.7 a fail because of the above? No it is not.

the environment/visuals are great, as said, the combat is fast paced and fun and am looking forward to getting new gear for my main and comps.

yes people have a right to gripe 'bout things they think need to change but it seems more and more that if "some people" do not get their way 'RIGHT NOW!!!" then the whole game and all new content is a disaster.

this is not real life people. this is just a game. if it's fun and engaging then play, if not then don't play. it really is that simple. flaming over and over doesn't change that one bit.

Dev's? I say 8.5 out of 10 on this one, nice job guys and am having a great time smashing those imp scum!

The Bad
-Sage Sorcerer Bubble Stunners are not nerfed yet
-Smash Monkeys/Mid Sweepers are not nerfed yet
-Nerf those two classes
-Nerf them before people leave
The Good
+Event looks great
+Cool effects, nice gear
+Stuff to keep people interested
The Ugly
-No communication with community

Have some fun at the event! Worth a go for sure.

Well that's diappointing

OK, if you enjoy PvP, and many do, this may be a fun event for you - but returning after a few weeks of a break because I was getting a little burned out on the same old dailies I was looking forward to a nice event of the same type as the last two. Oh well, guess it's back on a break to wait for Makeb.

/signed