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Dealing with Ninjaloot in FP PuG's?

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Dealing with Ninjaloot in FP PuG's?

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Themanthatisi
02.11.2013 , 12:41 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by justiceface View Post
You should definitely compare playing video games to work because it makes a ton of sense.
It does, the camparison is an example of... human nature! Just because its a game will not change human behaviour. But you think it should.....

Ok, explain to me how you will do this? Force all ninja's to have their accounts suspended? Like jail time?

Or do we fix the system in the game? You do not like the comparison because you want OTHERS to hand over the loot to you....Why, simply because that lvl 24 drop for your lvl 50 char should go to you because its that same class? I think thats insane.....Nope, I will roll need in a situation like that and take my "fair" shot at it. the fairness part was done by rolling the dice....

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MGriffith
02.11.2013 , 12:56 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Themanthatisi View Post
I understand what you are saying.... Good thing I play this like a RPG, so my need for grouping is very limited.
Probably should not say what I think of this attitude.

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like I also mention though, why should ONE person get the goodie and another does not?
You really should be old enough to realise that life is not fair. And if you are not then mommy should not let you play a game with a T rating. Doing a flashpoint or ops or even a heroic mission does not entitle you to anything, and if the only reason you have to join a group is to make money and 'the rest of the players be bleeped' then you really are playing for all the wrong reasons.

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Master-Nala
02.11.2013 , 01:02 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by AsheraII View Post
Get rid of player controlled loot distribution in Flashpoints altogether, and implement lootbags instead. Give each player the exact same BoP item, no matter what drops. Problem solved.
Can't use the item you got? Then put it on a companion or vendorize it.
Best idea.
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justiceface
02.11.2013 , 01:02 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Themanthatisi View Post
It does, the camparison is an example of... human nature! Just because its a game will not change human behaviour. But you think it should.....

Ok, explain to me how you will do this? Force all ninja's to have their accounts suspended? Like jail time?

Or do we fix the system in the game? You do not like the comparison because you want OTHERS to hand over the loot to you....Why, simply because that lvl 24 drop for your lvl 50 char should go to you because its that same class? I think thats insane.....Nope, I will roll need in a situation like that and take my "fair" shot at it. the fairness part was done by rolling the dice....
It's a not a fair rolling of the dice when you choose "need" and everyone else does what is expected and chooses "greed" because they don't need the drop. Just be honest and say you don't understand how this system works so you can stop embarrassing yourself with these ridiculous posts.

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Themanthatisi
02.11.2013 , 01:15 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by MGriffith View Post
Probably should not say what I think of this attitude.



You really should be old enough to realise that life is not fair. And if you are not then mommy should not let you play a game with a T rating. Doing a flashpoint or ops or even a heroic mission does not entitle you to anything, and if the only reason you have to join a group is to make money and 'the rest of the players be bleeped' then you really are playing for all the wrong reasons.
The most fair system to be in place, with limited drops would be to REMOVE the greed option....
No one said being entitled, but I will NOT give away what I can possible earn.... But if I go to work, I expect to be paid. If I cant be paid for a mission, so be it... Ill roll the dice if I feel I want the drop (pay). Entitled would be not doing the mission and expecting pay..... Yes, you go to WORK, you get paid. So, I work alone as much as possible, because unfortunatly, there is NOT equal pay in the game with drops... and some are worth lots. The MOST FAIR SYSTEM would be for all to roll the dice on it and if you choose to do so, you can give it away.

Your the entitled one that wants others to help you on a mission so YOU can get the drop.... Roll the dice, if you lose, move on.

We are referrign to a PUG with people you have no idea how they will roll.... and there is not enough drops to go around, thats called feast or famine situation and you should try that one in real life sometime.... Then you will understand my point perhaps.

I just love this... people trying to get fairness in a system designed to not be fair.... You should all really think about that when you go in a PUG. Unless its all yoru guild buddies and you all worked out a system, then you better expect someone will need on the items, BESIDES you....

Some of the ones really complaining are just sore they lost the dice roll perhaps????? Maybe???

Makes me wonder.... I wonder of we all had to choose NEED (no greed option) would the complaints then be, there are not enough drops.

IMO, there shold be more drops from a WB that it took 8 to bring down....Or leave it to chance, but DO NOT complain someone else won it.

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Themanthatisi
02.11.2013 , 01:20 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by justiceface View Post
It's a not a fair rolling of the dice when you choose "need" and everyone else does what is expected and chooses "greed" because they don't need the drop. Just be honest and say you don't understand how this system works so you can stop embarrassing yourself with these ridiculous posts.
Ok, you go ahead and make sure everyone understand the system..... I am sure you have the ability to change how people will be, just because you are right and I am wrong.

I MADE a decision to NEED because I wanted it..... Yep, I fully understand how it works and if I lose out, I move on.. not get online to complain it was stolen from another class in a PUG.

Since you are so smart, what is your solution?
Besides making sure everyone plays by YOUR rules.... Give a good example how to fix the system, because you will not fix the people based on yoru moral standards of how the game should be played. Much easier to find a real solution....

Really paople? Where is the MMO rule book? I would like a copy to read....

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justiceface
02.11.2013 , 01:20 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Themanthatisi View Post
The most fair system to be in place, with limited drops would be to REMOVE the greed option....
No one said being entitled, but I will NOT give away what I can possible earn.... But if I go to work, I expect to be paid. If I cant be paid for a mission, so be it... Ill roll the dice if I feel I want the drop (pay). Entitled would be not doing the mission and expecting pay..... Yes, you go to WORK, you get paid. So, I work alone as much as possible, because unfortunatly, there is NOT equal pay in the game with drops... and some are worth lots. The MOST FAIR SYSTEM would be for all to roll the dice on it and if you choose to do so, you can give it away.

Your the entitled one that wants others to help you on a mission so YOU can get the drop.... Roll the dice, if you lose, move on.

We are referrign to a PUG with people you have no idea how they will roll.... and there is not enough drops to go around, thats called feast or famine situation and you should try that one in real life sometime.... Then you will understand my point perhaps.

I just love this... people trying to get fairness in a system designed to not be fair.... You should all really think about that when you go in a PUG. Unless its all yoru guild buddies and you all worked out a system, then you better expect someone will need on the items, BESIDES you....

Some of the ones really complaining are just sore they lost the dice roll perhaps????? Maybe???

Makes me wonder.... I wonder of we all had to choose NEED (no greed option) would the complaints then be, there are not enough drops.

IMO, there shold be more drops from a WB that it took 8 to bring down....Or leave it to chance, but DO NOT complain someone else won it.
lol. Seriously dude we get it, you don't understand the MMO loot system, every post you make just reinforces that point.

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Themanthatisi
02.11.2013 , 01:23 PM | #48
[QUOTE=MGriffith;5843037]Probably should not say what I think of this attitude.

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Why not, when many of us only wanted KOTOR 3 and you have way more RPG fans in this game then many other MMO games, because of its story..

Are you are one of them people that I am sure will spacebar all things just to get to the end game....

The MMO part, thats a side feature... This game is very playable without any grouping.

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Themanthatisi
02.11.2013 , 01:28 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by justiceface View Post
lol. Seriously dude we get it, you don't understand the MMO loot system, every post you make just reinforces that point.
Yes I do... Need overrules Greed (like loaded dice and the need dice will win out)....

But I said enough, you can all go ahead and gripe. Guess what, it will keep happening until the system gets changed. Maybe you can make a police guild and run around fining people that won on a need roll....

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MGriffith
02.11.2013 , 01:32 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Themanthatisi View Post
The most fair system to be in place, with limited drops would be to REMOVE the greed option....
No one said being entitled, but I will NOT give away what I can possible earn....
Yes, we already got it that you tend to be selfish and greedy. No need to rephrase that in even more words.
I mean, you can justify it for yourself all you want, but don't expect me to swallow that load of ...