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Summary: PvE stuff inside of PvP areas

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Summary: PvE stuff inside of PvP areas

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Master-Nala
02.11.2013 , 10:31 AM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by PlasmaJohn View Post
You like (or tolerate) PvP. I accept that. Why do you refuse to accept the fact that many people do not find it fun or even tolerable?
I'm sure the developers understand that. But here what you should understand. There are some folks who are not violently opposed to PvP. They may or may not have tried it. Upon trying it they might enjoy it. Events like this are intended to get some people to try PvP. It's not a comfort to folks like you. I can respect that you don't like PvP at all, but then you have to accept that this event isn't for you then.

HK-51 was just annoying. I PvP every day and I thought that was stupid.
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PlasmaJohn
02.11.2013 , 11:00 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
They may or may not have tried it. Upon trying it they might enjoy it. Events like this are intended to get some people to try PvP.
It's a stick. HK-51 is marketed at everybody and not exclusively for PvP people. You'd sacrifice the sub and CM revenue of the Anti-PvP crowd just to scrape up a few more PvP players? Less beans make the bean counters unhappy.

Carrots work much better than sticks. The PvP speeder fits the look of my Jugg. I may have to suck it up and PvP for the comms. See? No drama.

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Drebs
02.11.2013 , 11:14 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by XeniteKT View Post
Open world pvp is a myth anyways, it's almost exclusively ganking of low level or out numbered players.
Speaking as a veteran of open-world pvp focused guilds in other MMOs, you couldn't be more wrong.

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TUXs
02.11.2013 , 11:32 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by uziforyou View Post
BS with a capital B and a capital S.

Lets play a little turnabout. New game content is devised where PvP'ers are required to join a PvE operations group to obtain a PvP reward. You're going to stand there with a straight face and tell me there wouldn't and shouldn't be a massive uproar from the PvP 'community'?

Like I said, I call BS on that.
Please define "PvE" reward.

You are working under the false assumption that every item in game should be available via PvE exclusively. Pets, mounts, speeders, gear, weapons, cosmetics...ALL of this can also be used to incentivize PvP, which makes them rewards for PvP. NO reward in game is a PvE exclusive. No title. No mount. No armor. NOTHING!

I'll stand here with a straight face and tell you that there is NO item in-game that PvEers are entitled to just because of their playstyle - and just because you refuse to participate in an aspect of the game, does not mean you're entitled to bypass the means of acquiring something. If you want a PvP reward (not just gear - could be a new speeder or pet), then do the required actions to get it. If you only participate in half of the game, don't expect to just be given stuff. You're not special.
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TUXs
02.11.2013 , 11:34 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Drebs View Post
Speaking as a veteran of open-world pvp focused guilds in other MMOs, you couldn't be more wrong.
Of course he's wrong. That's just the scare tactic anti-PvP people use deter new PvPers.
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islander
02.11.2013 , 11:45 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by hages View Post
Not when u are being jumped. no armour switch in combat.
PvP gear (full WH) is quite effective for PvE dailies and flash point hard modes.

Just sayin'. I can solo every heroic 2+ on my sorc or sniper in just my PvP gear - not to mention I have an easier time killing pubs while I do so.
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Benfynyn
02.11.2013 , 11:48 AM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by islander View Post
PvP gear (full WH) is quite effective for PvE dailies and flash point hard modes.

Just sayin'. I can solo every heroic 2+ on my sorc or sniper in just my PvP gear - not to mention I have an easier time killing pubs while I do so.
So what you're saying is PVP gear should be nerfed against PVE content.
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mothear
02.11.2013 , 12:33 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by PlasmaJohn View Post
It's a stick. HK-51 is marketed at everybody and not exclusively for PvP people. You'd sacrifice the sub and CM revenue of the Anti-PvP crowd just to scrape up a few more PvP players? Less beans make the bean counters unhappy.

Carrots work much better than sticks. The PvP speeder fits the look of my Jugg. I may have to suck it up and PvP for the comms. See? No drama.
Actually HK-51 is not marketed at the solo crowd as you have to do a Heroic FP so the rest of your point makes no sense.

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islander
02.11.2013 , 12:40 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by Benfynyn View Post
So what you're saying is PVP gear should be nerfed against PVE content.
I wouldn't recommend rolling into real progression content with it, of course...
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MariaD
02.11.2013 , 01:07 PM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by PlasmaJohn View Post
It's a stick. HK-51 is marketed at everybody and not exclusively for PvP people.
I think your definition of "a stick" is very different from mine.

I define "stick" (punishment) as something unpleasant or hurtful ADDED to one's life.

Lack of reward is not equal to punishment.

I also object to the statement that HK-51 is marketed at everybody. It's marketed as a somewhat hard-to-obtain item that requires group work, Level 50 content and play for both sides of the war. Not everybody does group content, not everybody is willing to play for both the Empire and the Republic. Not everybody has a Level 50 character. Not everybody wants to risk PvP. How is this content "for everybody" if it has so many requirements people don't meet?
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