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Lucasarts/Disney announce new Star Wars films! Good or bad ideas?

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Lucasarts/Disney announce new Star Wars films! Good or bad ideas?

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kirorx
02.08.2013 , 12:39 PM | #41
Very few films get me to the actual movie theater.

I have to say that everytime a new Marvel movie that has come out over the past 5 or 6 years I has been in the theater for those films.

I looked forward to each Avenger spin off and the avenger film.

Now I Starwars movies to look forward to, and not just 3 more, but spin offs and new tales set in a galaxy far far away, THIS IS AWESOME.

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Ighten
02.08.2013 , 01:25 PM | #42
The only bad idea I can think off is allowing Lucas within 10 square miles of any filming or script meeting

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caveslug
02.08.2013 , 04:03 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Ighten View Post
The only bad idea I can think off is allowing Lucas within 10 square miles of any filming or script meeting
I agree 110% with this also

Lucas is very much a one hit wonder if you ask me, also last I heard he was only going to be a creative consultant on the new films. I wonder how much power he will be given, and if that was his stipulation when selling the IP.

How quickly people forget Lucas first foray into bringing Star Wars to TV with his Ewok movies in the mid 80's.
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odonoghuet
02.08.2013 , 04:26 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by BJWyler View Post
I see a potential problem of oversaturation. Disney paid a bundle and I can see them milking the franchise for all they can get out of it. Star Trek suffered from the same fate (along with some poor choices in movie plots/direction). I just don't see how Disney is going to pull something off that won't end up pissing a lot of people off - especially the EU fans. I am not that much of a lore hound, but anything that takes place in or around the EU period is not going to go over well if they pull a ST and start changing the canon around, and if they stick with stories and canon from the EU, it's inevitable that it will disappoint people - just like Peter Jackson did with aspects of LOTR and Hobbit.

BJ
While over saturation is a consideration in marketing and timing, I can't say it scares me.

The apparent implimentation of the marvel mentality, using character driven spin offs to link back to the core actually gives the benefit of very different stories to be told, allowing packing in the movies together without competing to saturate the market, such as the Thor and Capatain America movies in the same year, the familiarity of the series made both appeal without making too much of either.

And really some of the EU was very good, but there are plenty of mistakes that for me I would take a gungan companion before returning too (looking at you R2D2 piloting a Star Destroyer). I have no doubt that some few will be disappointed with having thier favourites overruled by these new movies, but I am sure some will be disappointed by prequel moments being overruled or upheld by them too. In the end you can be thankful that there is more accessable story of this cherished series or you can just use the JJ Abram Startrek logic that there are two universes playing out, the new movie universe and the original pre-prequal EU.

If the rumours of Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill signing on (and considering his previous comments on his performance as Solo and the shocking failure of IJ4, I doubt Harrison Ford ever will), , and considering the major marks of this Space Opera series, this looks to me to have an element of a 'kids of the original movies' type continuation, so a lot of EU is going out the door on this.

Quote: Originally Posted by caveslug View Post
How quickly people forget Lucas first foray into bringing Star Wars to TV with his Ewok movies in the mid 80's.
How quickly people forget his abilities as a storyteller in other films back then that gave him the shot to make Starwars at all.

How quickly people forget that the first foray of other people making Star Wars material without him was the 'Life Day' Christmas Special.

I don't think he should have any say in how the new material is made, but don't try to make yourself stand taller by putting down the man for becoming old, lazy, and believing the hype around himself when he spent so long surrounded by yes men, when he did play a major part in making there original films, and changing the use of cinema itself.
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Monoth
02.08.2013 , 04:46 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Desolaytore View Post
Rather have peter jackson.
Peter zzzzzzzz Jackson....

j/k Peter Jackson is a good Director, I thought Lord of the Rings was a great flick... Wasn't as crazy about the Hobbit & King Kong tho...

JJ Abrahms has a better grasp when it comes to sci-fi then Jackson who is more about Fantasy..
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Monoth
02.08.2013 , 04:51 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by caveslug View Post
I agree 110% with this also

Lucas is very much a one hit wonder if you ask me, also last I heard he was only going to be a creative consultant on the new films. I wonder how much power he will be given, and if that was his stipulation when selling the IP.

How quickly people forget Lucas first foray into bringing Star Wars to TV with his Ewok movies in the mid 80's.
That's pretty harsh considering American Graffiti and the Indian Jones franchise were huge hits..... I do think Lucas is a better concept man then a writer/director....
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Monoth
02.08.2013 , 04:56 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by BJWyler View Post
I see a potential problem of oversaturation. Disney paid a bundle and I can see them milking the franchise for all they can get out of it. Star Trek suffered from the same fate (along with some poor choices in movie plots/direction). I just don't see how Disney is going to pull something off that won't end up pissing a lot of people off - especially the EU fans. I am not that much of a lore hound, but anything that takes place in or around the EU period is not going to go over well if they pull a ST and start changing the canon around, and if they stick with stories and canon from the EU, it's inevitable that it will disappoint people - just like Peter Jackson did with aspects of LOTR and Hobbit.

BJ
You have to remember that there are a lot of top tier directors / writers who want to work on these new Star Wars movies.. I doubt Disney is dumb enough to put out crap stories after spending 4 billion to buy the franchise...
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Kalfear
02.08.2013 , 07:55 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
If they are smart they will ignore everything Star Wars that was not in 4-6. Face it, the prequels are almost universally hated and ridiculed and the EU is known by a tiny percentage of the general public. I'd be surprised if they did anything other than pay it lip service for the uber fans.
Cant ignore 1-3, doesnt matter if it was hated. It happened and is canon.

But they dont need to dwell on it

As for EU, there is some great stuff out there as well as some absolute crap.

Personally Id LOVE to see

Tales of the Jedi part 1 and 2 (this should be a new trilogy in itself due to the massive content it covers)
Darth Bane trilogy of course
The Clone Wars ala the Trade Paperbacks of parts 1-2-3 (soooo much more then what we saw in the films. Soooo much more you need to read the trade paperbacks to understand. And no this is not that annoying anakin/asuka clone wars junk.)
Dawn of the Jedi series would be cool but thats still very new so probably asking to much there
KotOR and Revans story of course

Thats off top of head but those would be amazing films
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odonoghuet
02.08.2013 , 07:57 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
Thats off top of head but those would be amazing films
Don't get your hopes up, if someone already wrote them, then they would be announcing adaptions, not new movies.
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Hyde_v
02.08.2013 , 09:24 PM | #50
I am a bit concerned about these new films. I read newstories on Yahoo News where Disney reps were quoted that these new films will be entirely new stories. No one has flat out said "We are ignoring the books, comics, other stories" that are already available.

But then Disney said J.J. Abrams was directing. This is the same director who did a Star Trek film that wiped out thirty years of Trek lore. According to the last Star Trek film, the Original Series, the prior movies, Voyager, DS9, and Next Generation NEVER HAPPENED. This was confirmed by Spock's line: "So, whatever we were meant to do will no longer happen." That's a pretty ballsy move for anyone to take. But Abrams did it. What's stopping him from doing this to Star Wars as well? "Shadows of the Empire" did not happen? The Emperor's clones never existed? Scary.

Plus, this is the same director who turned the engine room of the Enterprise in to a water park with deadly, spinning blades.

I'm not real sure how these new movies will pan out. I might go see the first one if previews and such tick my interest. But if I see the film and do not get the previous Star Wars feel out of them, I will not go back nor will I buy home copies.
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