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Emperor's Wrath vs. Darth Nox (spoilers)

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Emperor's Wrath vs. Darth Nox (spoilers)

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Kaedusz
02.07.2013 , 12:57 PM | #81
If they ever fight, i think the outcome would not depend on who is stronger in the force.They are both nearly equally strong,maybe the Wrath is a little bit stronger.
The outcome will depend on the aspects of the force they have affinity to.
Malgus,Darth Bane-ish kind of power + lightsaber mastery vs advanced sith sorcery.

But they won't fight.These 2 lead the Sith and the Empire to war vs the jedi and Republic in the coming years in the events after the class quests.

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darthgroond
02.07.2013 , 01:27 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkestDaemon View Post
Sadly, there are always different grades of immortality.

For example... I forgot which of the Norse gods it was, but nothing could kill him except holly. And Loki slays him with a sprig of holly.

So you can't just say 'Immortals will die with no head!'

It could be 'Immortals will be inconvenienced with no head!'

Or 'Immortals... we can't even cut off their head.'
Baldr, and it was Mistletoe, which was apparently the only living thing that didn't agree to the 'don't kill Baldr' deal the gods arranged with nature. Loki found out about this and used some cheeky trickery to have him shot by an arrow made of the stuff. It's a harbinger of Ragnarok. Also, the Norse lot weren't properly immortal as they had to keep munching these golden apples from the goddess Idunn to retain it. Not sure when it ran out, but they had to keep eating to remain 'immortal'. I also think that it only applies to them being long lived and disease free. I think they can get their heads lobbed off or stabbed just like anyone else, otherwise Ragnorok (end of the gods) would be a fairly meaningless deal.

Anyway, I'm throwing my vote the way of The Wrath, so as to remain slightly on-topic.
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Darth_Vicente
02.07.2013 , 02:08 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by maxetius View Post
No no NO. Why do people keep saying this and spreading this misinformation?

Darth Imperius: LIGHT SIDE. Darth Marr gives you this name "For Serving the Empire."

Darth Nox: DARK SIDE. Darth Marr Gives you this name "For your mastery of the dark side."

Darth Occulus: NEUTRAL. Darth Marr gives you this name because "For Your Inscrutable Reputation." [mysterious, unknown, etc]

There you have it.
Because in Beta, where most of the info was first consolidated, the Light/Neutral titles were reversed.
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Darth_Precursor
02.07.2013 , 08:32 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Ladnerg View Post
This is entirely off subject, but since this is the first thread I've come across that is actually name dropping the Darth Nox, I cannot resist pointing this out.

Darth isn't a real word, but it has, over time, taken on the definition of "Dark" or "Dark Lord".

Nox it Latin for "the Night"

Darth Nox = Dark Knight.

S/he is batman.
I burst out laughing.

This is brilliant.
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SithKoriandr
02.07.2013 , 08:47 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Ladnerg View Post
This is entirely off subject, but since this is the first thread I've come across that is actually name dropping the Darth Nox, I cannot resist pointing this out.

Darth isn't a real word, but it has, over time, taken on the definition of "Dark" or "Dark Lord".

Nox it Latin for "the Night"

Darth Nox = Dark Knight.

S/he is batman.
Can't believe I missed this one! Good thing I saw the quote!

I'd say right here is the proof on who would win.

Batman always wins!

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Zaxem
02.07.2013 , 08:51 PM | #86
imo Darth Noxx is stronger and more powerful than the rest of the dark council and i also think he is just about equal as the wrath
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LastWizard
02.08.2013 , 01:31 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Surinen View Post
actually no, Warrior has much bigger force potential than inquisitor, you can pretty much see it doing class quests when he plays with enemies. even baras said about his superb power inside him. inquisitor pretty much stolen his power with a huge problems. also, what is the most important: Emperor would choose inquisitor instead of Warrior if he was more powerful. just because inquisitor chose to channel his force in a different way than Warrior it means a little - especially considering that Warriors are those who are elite.
Knowing how to use your power is important. The only reason the emperor chose the warrior was because of the path. Also what credibility does a dead man have? The force is stronger in darth nox. Martial ability lies with the wrath. If you take a lightsaber away from a warrior you have a fighting machine. You take a lightsaber away from an inquisitor and the fight doesn't really change. The force is the inquisitors primary weapon. Fighting ability belongs to the wrath. In actual combat darth nox would win and the fight wouldn't even be close. Pure strength/martial ability vs deceptive/cunning mindset. Sorry wrath, we all know the devs got the stories wrong ;D.

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JacenHallis
02.08.2013 , 04:43 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by LastWizard View Post
If you take a lightsaber away from a warrior you have a fighting machine. You take a lightsaber away from an inquisitor and the fight doesn't really change. The force is the inquisitors primary weapon.
You can't just "take away the lightsaber." It's part of the equation. The Warrior uses the Force just as much as the Inquisitor, but in more subtle ways, obviously: strengthening attacks, improving defense and, of course, the ever-useful Force Choke. The Inquisitor is certainly more flashy, but he's also pretty much a one-trick pony: lightning, lightning, lightning. Of course, in the actual lore, we know that the delineations of class as a game construct mean absolutely nothing.

Malgus was capable of incredible feats of strength when he allowed the Dark Side to fully take him. Kao Cen Darach was very likely Malgus' better in melee combat, having many years of experience, and he was able to not only hold off two Sith at once, but actually strike down one of them. When Malgus finally got pissed off, that's when his true power came out, and he pretty much shrugged aside everything the Jedi threw at him.

The warrior isn't just some guy who picks up a lightsaber and gets pretty good with it. He's actively using the Dark Side (or, I guess just the Force to be inclusive of Light-side Warriors) in combat. That's why the resource is called "Rage." The warrior's rage fuels his use of the Force. You can't simply count him out because he "just uses a lightsaber."

For the debate at hand, I'd side with the Emperor's Wrath. The Emperor's not a moron. He's going to make sure that his Wrath is the most skilled combatant in the Empire. I'll take that over a Sith whose power depends on the continued support of Force Spirits who are no longer bound to do his bidding and can depart at any time they want.
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Zaxem
02.08.2013 , 05:00 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by JacenHallis View Post
I'll take that over a Sith whose power depends on the continued support of Force Spirits who are no longer bound to do his bidding and can depart at any time they want.
assuming the Lore version Darth Noxx didn't adbid to that part of the deal and didn't let the spirts go free and from what i understand the only way to get rid of the spirts is to die or to simply unbind them and noxx could just simply bind them so they don't even have a choice but to stay at his side.
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SmugglersLuck
02.08.2013 , 12:50 PM | #90
Nox has life draining abilities as well as lightning. Ignoring game mechanics, I think Nox would be able to defeat the Wrath given that he/she manages to keep reasonable distance.
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