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Now that BW is equalizing expertise on all pvp gear...

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Now that BW is equalizing expertise on all pvp gear...

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Smashbrother
02.05.2013 , 06:16 PM | #1
Does that mean they are going to make expertise gains completely linear? I don't see why they shouldn't since they're essentially hard capping the amount we can obtain.

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02.05.2013 , 06:20 PM | #2
As one poster recently said, the effects (for healing at least) are basically linear. It's been allegedly proven that 1368 or whatever the max is to go is what to do.
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02.05.2013 , 06:21 PM | #3
Sounds like it... I don't think I'll be smashing anyone for 7k anymore unless they're in PvE gear.

I think smash is going to get nerfed into the ground with these changes coupled with the class changes that were posted in another thread. (Not complaining... smash is a boring spec to play... unfortunately it would be nice if it remains viable at least.... I doubt it.)

Seems like it's just going to give everyone the same damage mitigation more than anything and the only real advantage is going to be damage output.

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02.05.2013 , 06:27 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
Sounds like it... I don't think I'll be smashing anyone for 7k anymore unless they're in PvE gear.

I think smash is going to get nerfed into the ground with these changes coupled with the class changes that were posted in another thread. (Not complaining... smash is a boring spec to play... unfortunately it would be nice if it remains viable at least.... I doubt it.)

Seems like it's just going to give everyone the same damage mitigation more than anything and the only real advantage is going to be damage output.
If expertise becomes completely linear, there would never be a reason to use any pve crap ever which is one good thing. This would indirectly result in slightly higher TTK which people do want.

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02.05.2013 , 06:31 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Smashbrother View Post
If expertise becomes completely linear, there would never be a reason to use any pve crap ever which is one good thing. This would indirectly result in slightly higher TTK which people do want.
I was referring more to people who enter WZ's with 300 expertise simply because they don't know any better or are just a PvE'er trying to farm something they need for PvE.

Personally... I think a higher TTK is a bad thing for rated. People want it... but most of those people are only playing in regs. All we can do is wait until it's released to see how much it really affects game play.

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02.05.2013 , 06:33 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Zunayson View Post
As one poster recently said, the effects (for healing at least) are basically linear. It's been allegedly proven that 1368 or whatever the max is to go is what to do.
Currently 1396 is the max on Expertise.

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cashogy_reborn
02.05.2013 , 06:34 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Smashbrother View Post
If expertise becomes completely linear, there would never be a reason to use any pve crap ever which is one good thing. This would indirectly result in slightly higher TTK which people do want.
re-doing the expertise curve again is a bad idea imo.

it already has a very very slow approach to diminishing returns anyways. even at 2500 expertise you would not notice heavy diminishing returns.

where is all of this news coming from? i dont see any dev posts in the dev tracker mentioning any upcoming changes in 1.7. yet people are talking about them
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02.05.2013 , 06:39 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
re-doing the expertise curve again is a bad idea imo.

it already has a very very slow approach to diminishing returns anyways. even at 2500 expertise you would not notice heavy diminishing returns.

where is all of this news coming from? i dont see any dev posts in the dev tracker mentioning any upcoming changes in 1.7. yet people are talking about them
The equalizing expertise has been known for a while. It was in a podcast so it's legit. It's also why EWH is not an upgrade in expertise values over WH.

Whether they will make expertise completely linear like power has yet to be determined. I think they should, since the value is hard capped now.

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02.05.2013 , 06:43 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by UGLYMRJ View Post
I was referring more to people who enter WZ's with 300 expertise simply because they don't know any better or are just a PvE'er trying to farm something they need for PvE.

Personally... I think a higher TTK is a bad thing for rated. People want it... but most of those people are only playing in regs. All we can do is wait until it's released to see how much it really affects game play.
The increase in TTK won't be anything major. Expertise being the end all be all stat for pvp just means people will stop using pve stuff, and thus their damage output will be slightly lower.

Imagine if everyone currently only ran in max exp gear. That's what the TTK would be like.

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kirorx
02.05.2013 , 08:48 PM | #10
expertise cap is awesome. Maybe they can jsut come up with new gear with different stats options and set bonuses to give us all more interesting versiliity. .
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