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tekhiun
02.05.2013 , 04:58 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Yamahara View Post
I'm pretty sure resolve is still broken right?. And as for smash, I'm fully power modded to the max, and I still have to wait a minute for stasis to cool down, yes you can stack two with combat focus(which is a minute cd too) and use zealous leap for your crit. but without 4 stacks of singularity I wont be doing near as much dmg as I could on someone. With 2 stacks you might get hit for 5k at max. Honestly bubble stun is a pain in that ***, and I am a melee, so I get to feel it used against me. But honestly it can be used both ways.That is what getting a group together is for.
What the guy above me said. Funny when i play smash, i never run out of ways to stack singularity, maybe thats just me.... also "with 2 stacks you might get hit for 5k" LOL some classes never even hit 5k
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Yamahara
02.05.2013 , 05:18 AM | #12
well, I played Vigilance spec the last 6 wzs and I still hit 6k with Blade storm, so go ahead and nerf focus. lol A lot of classes geared for dps have been over 5k. Vangaurd,sniper, merc, bh. So it's not just a smasher my friend. Some of the server records have mercs in the top 5 for big hits. I am a guardian not sent btw. So you might have more ways to stack singularity than i do? not sure about smash sents..
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MelodicSixNine
02.05.2013 , 05:52 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Yamahara View Post
I am a guardian not sent btw. So you might have more ways to stack singularity than i do? not sure about smash sents..
You realize you're making yourself look really bad?
Sents and guardians focus works identically and has identical ways to gain singularity. Look at the singularity talent and highest talent in your focus tree.

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Yamahara
02.05.2013 , 05:58 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by MelodicSixNine View Post
You realize you're making yourself look really bad?
Sents and guardians focus works identically and has identical ways to gain singularity. Look at the singularity talent and highest talent in your focus tree.
I was asking because I wasn't sure how the tree for sents are. I assumed the same but It doesn't hurt to ask. my bad. I didn't see your first post. It's funny I was vigilance well before I even came to focus. It wouldn't bug me if they made force exhaustion have a minute cool down along with stasis and combat focus
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Draqsko
02.05.2013 , 06:59 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Yamahara View Post
I was asking because I wasn't sure how the tree for sents are. I assumed the same but It doesn't hurt to ask. my bad. I didn't see your first post. It's funny I was vigilance well before I even came to focus. It wouldn't bug me if they made force exhaustion have a minute cool down along with stasis and combat focus
Of course it wouldn't bother you, because smashers don't need to include crit rating in their gear itemization like every other class does. As Vig guardian, I need crit and strength, as well as power and surge to ensure that my force rush procs actually crit all the time and have good damage output. As focus guardian, I could drop strength and crit, putting those points into power, which has no DR, and a higher bonus damage gain than strength. The issue with smashers has never been how quickly they can generate singularities, it's gear optimizations required to maximize their damage. An undergeared smasher is something to laugh at, a fully geared and optimized smasher is extremely lethal.

PS. I don't and have never played a smasher but I've talked to alot of them with how to maximize damage in their spec, heck even sents rip the vindicator armorings for the increased damage on leap from the set bonus. This has been and probably always will be the biggest problem with smashers, they can completely ignore one secondary stat, and need minimal primary stat to be effective, whereas every other class has to consider the trade-offs of dropping these stats for increased power. That is the major reason of the imbalance of the spec.

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LarryRow
02.05.2013 , 08:10 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by MelodicSixNine View Post
You realize you're making yourself look really bad?
Sents and guardians focus works identically and has identical ways to gain singularity. Look at the singularity talent and highest talent in your focus tree.
lol wut?

Combat focus = generating stacks of Centering?

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Siorac
02.05.2013 , 08:13 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Yamahara View Post
well, I played Vigilance spec the last 6 wzs and I still hit 6k with Blade storm, so go ahead and nerf focus. lol A lot of classes geared for dps have been over 5k. Vangaurd,sniper, merc, bh. So it's not just a smasher my friend. Some of the server records have mercs in the top 5 for big hits. I am a guardian not sent btw. So you might have more ways to stack singularity than i do? not sure about smash sents..
That's pure, clean, shameless BS. Even Carnage/Combat won't hit for 6k with Blade Storm on a geared target, let alone Vigilance which can't do it on PvE gear.

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Draqsko
02.05.2013 , 09:36 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Siorac View Post
That's pure, clean, shameless BS. Even Carnage/Combat won't hit for 6k with Blade Storm on a geared target, let alone Vigilance which can't do it on PvE gear.
It will in PvE, but requires a force rush proc, with adrenal and/or relic use. But in PvP, sorry, not happening. Even with force rush, against a geared opponent, it'll land for around 3k, with burning blade maybe 4k total damage. Maybe he hit someone in leveling greens trying out PvP for the first time at 50..

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Jayshames
02.05.2013 , 09:39 AM | #19
Probably already been said but I can't be bothered to read, so here goes... If they limited the classes in each WZ that would make queuing a whole lot longer than it already is, and the waits can already be painful at times.

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Jayshames
02.05.2013 , 09:49 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Yamahara View Post
well, I played Vigilance spec the last 6 wzs and I still hit 6k with Blade storm, so go ahead and nerf focus. lol A lot of classes geared for dps have been over 5k. Vangaurd,sniper, merc, bh. So it's not just a smasher my friend. Some of the server records have mercs in the top 5 for big hits. I am a guardian not sent btw. So you might have more ways to stack singularity than i do? not sure about smash sents..
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