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Why do people say lowbie PvP is good?

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Why do people say lowbie PvP is good?

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UltimateKrucible
02.03.2013 , 01:57 PM | #1
After many months PvPing at 50 (EWH, ToFN serevr) I decided the time had come to roll the first alt I'm going to stick with and do the whole questing thing again.

Problem is, I've been popping in and out of WZ now and again - and it's a vastly inferior experience to lvl 50.

A small part of that is that I don;t have as many skills as I used to, and am often up against players who have more tools than me.

However, I find that once I got past lvl 20 I became much more viable, and the bolster mechanic works well.

But the massive problem is ....... A lot of lowbies simply do not know how the WZ work, and worse, don't seem to care to learn.

I don't like going into WZ and telling people what to do, but I find myself in general chat , map-watching and shouting out orders (mostly ignored) more than playing, as teams constantly make basic error after basic error.

I've seen Alderan matches lost because my teamates fought the imps at their drop zone and ignored the turret, or went for the one imp turrent when we comfortably held the other two. Same goes for NC.

I've seen Voidstar matches lost because no one called out incs, or bothered to follow the imps through the blown door. And I can't you the amount of Hypergates I've struggled through with no-one guarding the pylons......

I shall not mention hutball - I don't want the painful flashbacks all over again.......

So why do people claim that low-lvl PvP is a better experience? At least at 50 most people know what to do and you can actually spend the match, you know, PvPing....
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dcgregorya
02.03.2013 , 02:06 PM | #2
There's a lot of reasons.

1) Bolster system. Gear isn't as important or hard to maintain or grindy.
2) No weeklies, so people tend to be less whiny when you lose or are in the process of losing.
3) Not as many 4 man pre-mades - much more common to see 2 man pre-mades, which is fine.
4) Because there's no gear grind, the only people there are people who *want* to be there.

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ebado
02.03.2013 , 02:06 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by UltimateKrucible View Post
But the massive problem is ....... A lot of lowbies simply do not know how the WZ work, and worse, don't seem to care to learn.
That's why.

While knowledge at 50 certainly isn't perfect (people not understanding side speeders, able to do the simple match to determine when a 3 cap is needed in CW, not understanding AH etc), it's much better than it is in lowbie warzones. This makes simply being somewhat competent and spatially aware enough to make you the best player in most lowbie warzones, making it easier for people who are frustrated with the 50 bracket to roll over hordes of foam mouth drones.
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foxmob
02.03.2013 , 02:24 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by dcgregorya View Post
4) Because there's no gear grind, the only people there are people who *want* to be there.
the bolster effect scales. there is a gear grind. if you don't constantly upgrade, while I do, I'm going to absolutely crush you on gear alone. there are no tiers (other than the 3 colors). however, there are levels. and a 25 wearing something for a 15 usually isn't such a good idea.
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TL;DR Bolster is meant to help entry level players, ranked PvP is not entry level PvP.

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Carter_Mathis
02.03.2013 , 02:28 PM | #5
Several reasons:
1.) Less premades
2.) Less people wearing Best in Slot gear
3.) The person is bad and (a) Enjoys playing with people who are equally as bad/not fighting better players (b) has less confusing abilities and procs to try to keep track of
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Smashbrother
02.03.2013 , 02:44 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by foxmob View Post
the bolster effect scales. there is a gear grind. if you don't constantly upgrade, while I do, I'm going to absolutely crush you on gear alone. there are no tiers (other than the 3 colors). however, there are levels. and a 25 wearing something for a 15 usually isn't such a good idea.
This. If you keep your gear updated you'll have like 14k hp and higher stats while others have 11-12k and lower stats. It's a big *** difference.

The difference is even larger when you get people who use purp items and augment their gear.

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Jayshames
02.03.2013 , 02:52 PM | #7
I find lowbie PvP is a great base to start collecting commendations for the future. Sure you spend most your time playing yourself since like 75% of team insist on playing team deahtmatch, but it can still be enjoyable at times. At 40-49 you can basically faceroll anyone anyway so that's fun in a sense. If you're rich (or have credits to spend) then get fully purp mods and augs and the cartel crystals and your stats + endurance skyrocket in pre50 PvP.
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Washingtoon
02.03.2013 , 03:14 PM | #8
Less frustration.

If someone does something utterly stupid in lowbie you can jusy shake it off as them being new and not familiar with the game. The same things are just annoying at 50 and they're just as frequent.

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ace_boogie
02.03.2013 , 03:15 PM | #9
The fact that at around level 20 an only half decent player (such as myself lol)can completely dominate just about every WZ besides the ones against level 40+ premaders, says it all.
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V-Serp
02.03.2013 , 03:17 PM | #10
Don't kid yourself, there are plenty of people that don't know how to play at 50 either.