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What Assassin Spec puts up 400k damage?

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What Assassin Spec puts up 400k damage?

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KettleBelll
02.03.2013 , 11:25 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by cbauga View Post
So you guys are saying that a full deception assassin should be getting to 400k regularly?

Ive got 2 crit augs to 9 power augments. I wanted to get to 30% crit rating. It sounds like I should replace those crits augs from the sarcastic responses above. So run 11 power augs?

Note: Most of the time I am queuing solo and pugging it most of the time. I rarely have heals and protection so I am dying pretty quickly.
See, this is what's wrong with people.

Why do you feel you MUST HAVE 30%? Did you read that on a forum, where someone told you this is a 'must have'? Or is it some sort of OCD compulsion?

This thread remind me of the Vanguard that make a QQ thread saying he can't get 5k High Impact Bolts, but refused to spec points into High Impact Bolt talents, and didn't stack aim/power.

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cbauga
02.03.2013 , 11:32 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Huggsnotdruggs View Post
I put up 455k in 23/1/17
Are you using all willpower mods?

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cbauga
02.03.2013 , 11:35 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by braONEntax View Post
800k dmg 200k prot regs bro

27/1/13
Uhh huh....what augs are you using?

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Cowflab
02.03.2013 , 11:42 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by KettleBelll View Post
See, this is what's wrong with people.

Why do you feel you MUST HAVE 30%? Did you read that on a forum, where someone told you this is a 'must have'? Or is it some sort of OCD compulsion?

This thread remind me of the Vanguard that make a QQ thread saying he can't get 5k High Impact Bolts, but refused to spec points into High Impact Bolt talents, and didn't stack aim/power.
Exactly!!! In deception/deception-madness hybrids one only needs to carry roughly 25% unbuffed crit. With the operative buff and first tier madness talent you'll have 39% crit, which is more than sufficient. It's been said a hundred times already over in the sin forum but here it goes again.

Stats to aim for...

96.9% accuracy
75% crit multiplier
25% crit
Mod the rest of your gear for power

There's a debate about whether you should augment WP or power, but the difference between the 2 is very miniscule so you can go with either. WP adds slightly more crit which is separate from the crit rating soft cap, but offers slightly less bonus damage. Power adds slightly more bonus damage, but no crit.

Now go forth and prosper.

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Kyanzes
02.03.2013 , 11:45 AM | #25
Here's a spec that I find fun to play:

2/27/12

Checklist:

Do I find it fun to play? YES
Can it dish out 450k? YES
Would some people find it "gimped"? YES
Do I care? NO



Stay behind target at all times. Maul their *** when you can. Shock when you can (for 1.5x damage). Use discharge when you can (and can't maul or shock). When force is low or can't maul: thrash.

Screw voltaic slash.

Also works nicely with 160 force (PVE kit bonus) and 1214 expertise. Allows for evil mauling.

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Cowflab
02.03.2013 , 11:45 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by cbauga View Post
Uhh huh....what augs are you using?
It's not just in the augments... It's in mod and enhancement itemization as well. You should be ripping them from the force master boots at WH gear level, and from the belt and bracers at EWH gear level. Augments only serve as a slight boost to otherwise min/maxed gear.

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dcgregorya
02.03.2013 , 11:47 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Cowflab View Post
Exactly!!! In deception/deception-madness hybrids one only needs to carry roughly 25% unbuffed crit. With the operative buff and first tier madness talent you'll have 39% crit, which is more than sufficient. It's been said a hundred times already over in the sin forum but here it goes again.

Stats to aim for...

96.9% accuracy
75% crit multiplier
25% crit
Mod the rest of your gear for power

There's a debate about whether you should augment WP or power, but the difference between the 2 is very miniscule so you can go with either. WP adds slightly more crit which is separate from the crit rating soft cap, but offers slightly less bonus damage. Power adds slightly more bonus damage, but no crit.

Now go forth and prosper.
Yeah but honestly what separates the 500k people from the 250k people isn't that. Its AOE and DOT spam. The minor damage difference changing 2 augments will do just doesn't scale like that - its a fundamental difference in playstyle (going for max damage vs going for single target and objective).

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LastWizard
02.03.2013 , 11:47 AM | #28
Your augmenting is atrocious. In all honesty you need to fix that.

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Cowflab
02.03.2013 , 11:52 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by dcgregorya View Post
Yeah but honestly what separates the 500k people from the 250k people isn't that. Its AOE and DOT spam. The minor damage difference changing 2 augments will do just doesn't scale like that - its a fundamental difference in playstyle (going for max damage vs going for single target and objective).
A properly itemized 2/31/8 sin can do well over 400k damage without any AoE or dots. Min/maxed gear makes a huge difference in the spec. If you had said "what separates a 500k player and a 250k player is how they use the class" then I'd probably agree with you. The difference between a non min/maxed maul and a min/maxed maul is actually pretty staggering.

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foxmob
02.03.2013 , 01:07 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by cbauga View Post
So you guys are saying that a full deception assassin should be getting to 400k regularly?

Ive got 2 crit augs to 9 power augments. I wanted to get to 30% crit rating. It sounds like I should replace those crits augs from the sarcastic responses above. So run 11 power augs?

Note: Most of the time I am queuing solo and pugging it most of the time. I rarely have heals and protection so I am dying pretty quickly.
no. but you're a single target, lone wolf. unless you have a tankasin in your group, you should be stealth guarding nodes. you're a role player. why even look at the numbers at all?

Quote: Originally Posted by Warshades View Post
Well you should have 14 augmentation, not 11. Also with wh gear you should be around 35% crit. And 75% surge.
full deception could push crit a bit more, I think. but yeah, it does run into the DR curve ~35% buffed. I'm at 39-40% buffed. I rarely do 400k, but I rarely spend the WZ in combat. I do my job. see response to first quote: know your role.
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