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James Ohlen: "Makeb is not an expansion"

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James Ohlen: "Makeb is not an expansion"

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DirgeZombie
01.31.2013 , 05:49 PM | #91
Something that was stated in June turned out to be something different 6 months later?!? OMG!!! I can't cope!!!

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CaptRavenous
01.31.2013 , 05:50 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by opriv View Post
Yes, it's more fun for me to post in the forums now than play the game. If you fan folk were having such a good time, that is where you would be as well.
I always stop by the forums before playing, sometimes after. I like to be a voice in the community. Its still more fun playing the game than posting.

I can't help but wonder, though. With your logic, are you saying that you are posting here, because doing so is not only more fun than playing SW:TOR, but any other game in existence as well?

Does this include real life activities?

How can your standards be so low, yet at the same time, so impossibly high?
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Zevrad
01.31.2013 , 06:00 PM | #93
Personally, I'm never a forum-user... except when I'm at work - any free time thinking about a game, I'd rather spend playing the game, but that's not always possible. So I'm here jostling with you guys.

I haven't burned though the content at all, but I guess that's because I've got a job. There's so many classes I still want to play, I'm waiting for Bioware to sort out the Oceanic server concerns before finding groups or joining a guild.

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OldRepJedi
01.31.2013 , 06:05 PM | #94
Personally, I am still think that subs shouldn't have to pay for this. We pay our $15 a month and yes we get full access, but since this isn't an expansion, subs shouldn't have to pay.
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DirgeZombie
01.31.2013 , 06:27 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by OldRepJedi View Post
Personally, I am still think that subs shouldn't have to pay for this. We pay our $15 a month and yes we get full access, but since this isn't an expansion, subs shouldn't have to pay.
I personally think it doesn't matter if you am still think subs shouldn't have to pay. As long as we're sharing pointless opinions

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Oggthebase
02.01.2013 , 04:23 AM | #96
I am fine with whatever business model they apply for content created after EAware went F2P.

But Makeb was planned, financed and developped last year, long before James Ohlen even spoke about it at E3 in june 2012. This piece of content was shown in a trailer, along with Terror from Beyond, Ancient Hypergates and the new space missions.

Makeb was already "paid" for by the subscribers in 2012, and all I'm seeing is that EAware is trying to gouge the 2012 subscribers by making them pay a second time.

It's not about quantity or quality of the "expansion".
It's about Eaware making the long time subscribers pay for Makeb twice. First, when we were subscribers in 2012, and a second time in spring 2013.

No way for me.

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Devlonir
02.01.2013 , 04:40 AM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Stradlin View Post
Betting my account details, credit card included there was NO plans to increase lvl cap with Makeb. That thought only erntered their mind when they realized expansion itself lacks any desireable enough quality for significant majority to buy it.
Could I have your account and credit card details please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hQriS6xIvY

Level cap increase announced in same video as Makeb. What else would they have filled 5 levels with? Flashpoint dailies?

Yay for someone else paying my creditcard bills from now on!
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Arlbo_Nabbins
02.01.2013 , 04:55 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlon_Nabarlly View Post
I don't really think it's a true expansion either. I hope this means that we can still expect a REAL expansion in the future, even if it's a year or two away (likely when they finally improve the space combat system).
I would think its unlikely. More frequent small expansions are more of a fit for the F2Pbusiness model: Lower prices make it more attractive to free players, lower development time and cost and a more regular revenue flow for EA. If anything its better for the players to get 1/2 an expansion every year than 1 expansion every 2 years as long as they are priced accordingly. Less waiting for big pieces of new content.

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darklordpotter
02.01.2013 , 04:56 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Devlonir View Post
Could I have your account and credit card details please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hQriS6xIvY

Level cap increase announced in same video as Makeb. What else would they have filled 5 levels with? Flashpoint dailies?

Yay for someone else paying my creditcard bills from now on!
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@PacSoup my understanding is that Cathar is now CM - there is not AFAIK a release date for them though so potentially they are released at the same time (that would kind of make sense to me anyway).

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darklordpotter
02.01.2013 , 04:59 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlbo_Nabbins View Post
I would think its unlikely. More frequent small expansions are more of a fit for the F2Pbusiness model: Lower prices make it more attractive to free players, lower development time and cost and a more regular revenue flow for EA. If anything its better for the players to get 1/2 an expansion every year than 1 expansion every 2 years as long as they are priced accordingly. Less waiting for big pieces of new content.
Trouble is I would imagine that makes it more difficult to justify getting VAs back to do class story content and /or any companion interaction because hiring someone for a day to record companion interactions for a whole chapter of class story is easy enough to justify hiring someone to voice 2 lines is significantly more difficult.

Unless of course they work really far ahead but my understanding was that F2P doesn't have that kind of long term aspect to it.