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James Ohlen: "Makeb is not an expansion"

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James Ohlen: "Makeb is not an expansion"

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GhostDrone
01.31.2013 , 07:32 AM | #51
Eh, all the content patches we've had so far were free (They were pretty good, too). I'm okay with throwing out an extra 8 euros, as a subscriber.
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01.31.2013 , 07:33 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by odonoghuet View Post
Isn't that part of the basic elements of a 2003 MMO?
This totally calls for a: "Bazinga"
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Arlon_Nabarlly
01.31.2013 , 07:36 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Eszi View Post
http://youtu.be/txpfoYS36FQ
Go to 5:07

So they said it themselves - this is NOT an expansion. Looks like bioware is just trying to see if we are willing to pay for a patch, as long as it has a fancy name attached to it. Looks like we are, but hey, people are paying $18 for recolored stuff on cm, so why not

And they you wonder why people don't trust bioware

inb4 ninjadelete and/or infraction
I don't really think it's a true expansion either. I hope this means that we can still expect a REAL expansion in the future, even if it's a year or two away (likely when they finally improve the space combat system).

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ZionHalcyon
01.31.2013 , 08:28 AM | #54
*Yawn*

This is back in what, June? July? This was back when the existing Devs were sure that there wouldn't be a cartel market and were operating on that assumption. If there never was a cartel market, Makeb would have been a free patch.

But without a cartel market, the game would still have been bleeding out.

I'll take the cartel market - for all the griping over it, it shot new life into the game.

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Choffware
01.31.2013 , 08:53 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Eszi View Post
http://youtu.be/txpfoYS36FQ
Go to 5:07

So they said it themselves - this is NOT an expansion. Looks like bioware is just trying to see if we are willing to pay for a patch, as long as it has a fancy name attached to it. Looks like we are, but hey, people are paying $18 for recolored stuff on cm, so why not

And they you wonder why people don't trust bioware

inb4 ninjadelete and/or infraction
Even I have to admit this post is a lot of BS. I'm not a Bioware apologist by any stretch. In fact I'm disappointed by them for a lot of reasons, But you have to be reasonable. They changed their business model since then so things got shifted. They have been saying for months there will be releasing an expansion and maybe Mekeb was thrown in to beef it up a bit... or to fix a scheduling problem with getting all the content out they want to by the end of the year. So to trash them for statements they made in June is unreasonable since they have been having to scramble to keep the game profitable. It's reality. You don't like the 10 dollar price tag don't pay it. You can still play most of the game for free... still don't like it... do something else...
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Goretzu
01.31.2013 , 09:28 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Devlonir View Post
Oh, I agree with that! It's just.. it wasn't a promise as so many claim and it was certainly not the exact words as people, and especially the OP, claimed were said concerning it.

Still waiting for the day Damion Schubert comes out into an interview and makes a reference to "But James Ohlen promised me a pony!!"
It is however pretty clear from what he said that at that point it was going to basically be a free content patch.

I'm personally much more concerned with the stuff Devs are saying about the Cashshop now, which just doesn't jive with the reality of it.
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Dimvou
01.31.2013 , 09:28 AM | #57
I love just how ppl say it costs only 10$ or 8E and consider it solid ground.
If each planet orginally cost 10$ then the whole game should cost like 140-160$ or 110-130E.Add class stories to that and make it 200$!!

Makeb is just another planet,don't think lesser or it,nor higher.
The 5 levels that according to EA/BW "will keep people busy for a fair amount of time" will be like 2-3 days for most.
After that,all of us are going to do the same stuff you do right now.Dailies,FP etc.
I hope at least they tune up current endgame raids and FP,or else we'll have probably 2 FP and 1 Operation as an endgame.

I like the game and want to see it expanding instead of "shrinking" but just because something costs "only 10$" doesn't mean that people can't argue about it.

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Stradlin
01.31.2013 , 09:53 AM | #58
It is fairly immoral to charge sub fee from glorified content patch. By adding an artifical lvl cap on top of it, they ensured everybody who'd like to stay involved with end game of TOR has no option to skip it. This is highly immoral. Check my signature.
Betting my account details, credit card included there was NO plans to increase lvl cap with Makeb. That thought only erntered their mind when they realized expansion itself lacks any desireable enough quality for significant majority to buy it.

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TUXs
01.31.2013 , 10:04 AM | #59
A lot has changed since that remark. The game is F2P, Makeb is larger than they had planned...I've got no issue with the $10.
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jasonthelamb
01.31.2013 , 10:12 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Eszi View Post
$10 here, $10 there and soon you will have to pay $10 every time you want to login
But hey, that would still be $10
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