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Was dual spec never added?


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AshlaBoga
01.31.2013 , 12:04 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenaul View Post
That is not "fixing" the situation that improving it. This "solutions" is about half way to where it should be. The other half is not having to reconfigure 30 buttons whenever you change the spec, but having the game remember them, just like it remembers Interface profiles. It is not unreasonable request.
30 buttons? I don't bother moving all my skills when I reset, at most I move 24 (QB 1 and 2). What spec are you that makes moving 30 important? I ask because I've only played Sentinel (Combat), Sorc (all), Operative (Medicine), Merc (Bodyguard, Pyrotech) and Jugg (Immortal and Vengeance).
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Tgeos
01.31.2013 , 12:16 AM | #22
no it was not but subscribers get a free respec at any time, but it is something they looking into
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jgelling
01.31.2013 , 03:51 AM | #23
Though this seems a small feature, if the expansion implemented just this it would show Makeb isn't just warmed-over old content, but was actually pushing the game forward.

Every other MMO has this feature, and no one can realistically say a 200k legacy feature with no keybinds and that requires a manual rebuild of spec points is even remotely comparable to WoW or other modern MMOs.

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ImperialSun
01.31.2013 , 04:27 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by jgelling View Post
"We've learned to accept mediocrity and broken promises." Whatever dude. It was a legitimate question and it's not unreasonable to think they might have fixed this situation after a year.
Fixed the situation?

There is no bug, nothing is broken and nothing is in need of fixing.

This game simply does not have a dual spec feature and you want it to. That does not equal anything in need of fixing. I love how a game always needs "fixing" when it does not offer a feature that an individual wants.

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EATtheDEAD
01.31.2013 , 05:11 AM | #25
how anybody in this thread thinks dual specs and free respecs/respec summon is the same is beyond me.

dual spec is to save you time. when you use it bang its done and you dont have to do diddly.

respec summon takes time to then go down your trees spending the points again then having to move abilities around.

this is why the op is probably wondering and is also what ive been asking for since day 1
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ImperialSun
01.31.2013 , 05:31 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by EATtheDEAD View Post
how anybody in this thread thinks dual specs and free respecs/respec summon is the same is beyond me.

dual spec is to save you time. when you use it bang its done and you dont have to do diddly.

respec summon takes time to then go down your trees spending the points again then having to move abilities around.

this is why the op is probably wondering and is also what ive been asking for since day 1
I dont think there should be any confusion as to what constitutes dual spec. We should all know what it means, what i would assert however is that dual spec not being present in this game does equal something that needs 'fixing'. Dual spec is not a cornerstone feature of any and all successful MMORPGs despite what the WoW players may say.

Besides, how many times a week do you respec? How long does it take, maybe 60 seconds to re tick the required skill boxes and drag some gear around...how much time do you think dual spec is actually going to save you? Not very much by the sound of it

The fact we are a year in and the game has not collapsed without dual spec says a lot for how fundamental this feature really is imo.

Driz

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snakebam
01.31.2013 , 06:19 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
Fixed the situation?

There is no bug, nothing is broken and nothing is in need of fixing.

This game simply does not have a dual spec feature and you want it to. That does not equal anything in need of fixing. I love how a game always needs "fixing" when it does not offer a feature that an individual wants.

Driz
You are right, they can't fix something that isn't there. However dual spec is not a feature that "an individual" wants. Is it fundamental? No. Is it a useful feature that would make lots of players happy? Yes. So why would anyone be against it?

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Master-Nala
01.31.2013 , 06:32 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by snakebam View Post
You are right, they can't fix something that isn't there. However dual spec is not a feature that "an individual" wants. Is it fundamental? No. Is it a useful feature that would make lots of players happy? Yes. So why would anyone be against it?
I don't think anyone is against dual spec. Folks are against whining and denouncing the game because the feature isn't here yet, especially where there is an arguably equivalent (and in some cases better) option. Field respec has no cooldown and no recurring cost. Most games I've played with dual spec have one or both. So if I have to spend 20-30 seconds moving around some skills, that's a decent tradeoff for me. Sure I would love it if we could save a spec. But really, I can switch between healing and DPS specs on my Sage in under a minute....from anywhere.

For my own edification, last time I was in WoW, you had to go to a guy in town and wasn't there a cooldown on the feature?
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01.31.2013 , 06:37 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
I don't think anyone is against dual spec. Folks are against whining and denouncing the game because the feature isn't here yet, especially where there is an arguably equivalent (and in some cases better) option. Field respec has no cooldown and no recurring cost. Most games I've played with dual spec have one or both. So if I have to spend 20-30 seconds moving around some skills, that's a decent tradeoff for me. Sure I would love it if we could save a spec. But really, I can switch between healing and DPS specs on my Sage in under a minute....from anywhere.

For my own edification, last time I was in WoW, you had to go to a guy in town and wasn't there a cooldown on the feature?
"I don't think anyone is against dual spec. Folks are against whining and denouncing the game because the feature isn't here yet"

This exactly...

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J__H
01.31.2013 , 06:56 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
I dont think there should be any confusion as to what constitutes dual spec. We should all know what it means, what i would assert however is that dual spec not being present in this game does equal something that needs 'fixing'. Dual spec is not a cornerstone feature of any and all successful MMORPGs despite what the WoW players may say.

Besides, how many times a week do you respec? How long does it take, maybe 60 seconds to re tick the required skill boxes and drag some gear around...how much time do you think dual spec is actually going to save you? Not very much by the sound of it

The fact we are a year in and the game has not collapsed without dual spec says a lot for how fundamental this feature really is imo.

Driz
Dual spec is not WoW only, stop trying to be so 'unique' from WoW it doesn't make you a better person/ gamer. Also it does need fixing, as the game supports switching specs yet does so in an inconvenient and archaic manner. If BW don't want us switching specs then don't allow it at all, don't implement a system which doesn't really deter spec switching just makes it tedious and an annoyance.
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