Please Remove Tank, DPS and Heal

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kevlarto

01.30.2013 , 07:19 PM \| #51	Quote
all I can say is try out GW2 allot of folks thought they were ready to play a game without a trinity, and well allot of folks realize we have the trinity system for a reason, until they can replace it with a system that works on par or better than the trinity, it is not going away anytime soon.. I would like to see something new as well, but givien the game mechanics in mmo's it's tough to make raid quality content based around, dabbblers.. maybe some day..
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Icebergy

01.30.2013 , 07:24 PM \| #52	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ShatteredVision Go play GW2 if you're so interested in this. Oh wait, that game is boring as hell after a couple of weeks. The trinity works fine for this game. QQ somewhere else. This^^. Trinity is fine, I like the trinity. Please don't post absolutes like you speak for every gamer, OP, you do not.
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lavido

01.30.2013 , 07:49 PM \| #53	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jetsunz Its,..2013 and I think we all can agree something needs to change. I am talking about the old, worn out and tired system of Tank, DPS, and Heal. It really is obsolete in this day and age,...everyone...EVERYONE no matter what class you are ....wants to beat on the bad guy,..they want to slay,..ok.....they don't want to follow rules in fights...they just want to beat on stuff and watch stuff die This notion that you have to have dps, heal and tank in fights is old school...it's past its time Ask anyone...ANYONE...and they will tell you...they just want to Tank n Spank and get hell outta there and collect the commendations. In and Out..simple..fast and done As it is now,...what do people do in flashpoints? Lol...they skip trash and go directly to Boss and kill for the phat lewt. Spacebar commandos and don't you dare listen to the story...rush to the Boss...get your objective and done Dps fights stuff that the tank isn't even fighting ROFL...healer is healing the dps'rs instead of the tank ROFL...tank is has no clue what aggro is ROFL.....i mean it is total chaos in mmo gaming now days. It is rare to find a coordinated group in traditional tank, heal and dps roles working like a swiss watch Recommendation: 1. Give everyone a natural heal buff over time duration 2. Give everyone heavy armor 3. Give everyone an equal amount of dps 4. Get rid of need and pass and make all loot drop particular to your class and automatically go into your inventory If you disagree with this post....see the thread titled....Don't Get Discouraged by Jerks in Pug's, FP's and Op's. I am offering a solution to eliminate jerks in mmo's,..well no way to totally eliminate jerks but you get the idea Yeah im sorry but if this game goes to nothing but tank n spank or 8-16 just doing dps rotations to kill something im gonna uninstall and stop paying for this. some of us actually like our fights to have some mechanics if this entire game was just stand here push 1-6 on keyboard activate cooldown gg heres loot i can garentee you will probably play it for 1 month endgame then leave to something else

LogicalPremise

01.30.2013 , 07:56 PM \| #54	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ShatteredVision Go play GW2 if you're so interested in this. Oh wait, that game is boring as hell after a couple of weeks. Quoted for truth. A large number of the people screaming how great GW2 would be have given up on it in turn because it highlights the problem with the game -- it's utterly boring. I understand the OP's frustration, but the problem , sadly, is the people, not the system. Play with more mature players and you won't run into this. Play with guild and friends: have a blast, every time Play with pugs: total toss up, sometimes fun, sometimes horrible.
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fresnosmokey

01.30.2013 , 08:15 PM \| #55	Quote
So, what? OP wants to make all the classes the same? Yeah, that'll last a full five minutes until people start complaining about that. You want all classes to be the same, you might as well only have one class. Heck, you might as well just play a single player game.

jedip_enguin

01.30.2013 , 09:53 PM \| #56	Quote
This is a hilariously stupid request to make of a game that has already been out over a year, so stupid in fact that I can only assume the OP is either trolling, or simply profoundly ignorant of the sheer scale or the request being made. This game uses the trinity system, there are others that do not, if hating the trinity means that much to you I'd suggest you might be happier with something like GW2
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CaptianFordo

01.30.2013 , 10:14 PM \| #57	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Socialist I really like the Trinity-less Guild Wars 2, whenever I feel like go PvPing, I log out SWTOR and log in GW2. I also really like the dungeons there. However, I hate leveling there, this game hands down has the best leveling/eusting experience of all MMO. So, if they adapted GW2's combat mechanics into this game it would be the ultimate game for me. Not happening though So why are you posting here again?
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Spinikar

01.30.2013 , 10:21 PM \| #58	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jetsunz Its,..2013 and I think we all can agree something needs to change. I am talking about the old, worn out and tired system of Tank, DPS, and Heal. It really is obsolete in this day and age,...everyone...EVERYONE no matter what class you are ....wants to beat on the bad guy,..they want to slay,..ok.....they don't want to follow rules in fights...they just want to beat on stuff and watch stuff die This notion that you have to have dps, heal and tank in fights is old school...it's past its time Ask anyone...ANYONE...and they will tell you...they just want to Tank n Spank and get hell outta there and collect the commendations. In and Out..simple..fast and done As it is now,...what do people do in flashpoints? Lol...they skip trash and go directly to Boss and kill for the phat lewt. Spacebar commandos and don't you dare listen to the story...rush to the Boss...get your objective and done Dps fights stuff that the tank isn't even fighting ROFL...healer is healing the dps'rs instead of the tank ROFL...tank is has no clue what aggro is ROFL.....i mean it is total chaos in mmo gaming now days. It is rare to find a coordinated group in traditional tank, heal and dps roles working like a swiss watch Recommendation: 1. Give everyone a natural heal buff over time duration 2. Give everyone heavy armor 3. Give everyone an equal amount of dps 4. Get rid of need and pass and make all loot drop particular to your class and automatically go into your inventory If you disagree with this post....see the thread titled....Don't Get Discouraged by Jerks in Pug's, FP's and Op's. I am offering a solution to eliminate jerks in mmo's,..well no way to totally eliminate jerks but you get the idea I'm sorry, but I disagree with EVERYTHING you just said. In my Guild, I'm a designated healer. Have been since launch. I love healing, hate DPS, and find tanking interesting. Then we have tanks who love tanking, DPS who love their role. We work as a team, each with our roles to play. The game trinity is not outdated. It work well in this game, and where do you get the idea that everything is Tank and Spank. Have you done TFB? Each of those fights have very different mechanics that each role has to deal with in different ways. Again, team work, not just a bunch of players doing whatever.
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JLazarillo

01.30.2013 , 10:35 PM \| #59	Quote
Primary concession: this game is what it is and it's balanced the way it's balanced and at this point, it's not going to change significantly from that. For better or worse, this is a game with a strict trinity system and changing from that now is effectively impossible. That said, for sake of argument, it doesn't mean that the system, at least in the way it works in this game, isn't poor, or that it isn't the reason teaming in this game can be so tedious and un-fun. It's not the roles themselves, that are flawed, mind, but rather the way they are relied upon. In a more balanced game, the same task could be completed by four tanks, or by four DPS, for example, but what we'd have is that the way they would complete it would be different. Of course, a balanced team would also take a different (and likely somewhat easier, due to its adaptability) approach. Instead, what we see mot of the tie is "this task needs X number of Y role, specifically, and without that, don't even bother". It also doesn't help that there are half as many tanking and healing classes as are required for a proper team, which is probably a big part of what causes the system to be as much of a drag as it is in this particular game, but that, unfortunately, isn't particularly likely to change either at this point.

wargonglok

01.30.2013 , 10:39 PM \| #60	Quote
seeing as every game in this format, including gw 2, contains the trinity, i think the trinity is gonna live through 2013 and beyond. support, damage, control, WoW, Swtor, Gw2 all have these, contrary to popular beleif about gw2 so yeah, your basis for this argument is wrong, goodnight
Sniper, 'nough said

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