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Should I make a Vanguard? :o

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Should I make a Vanguard? :o

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Talon_Starfire
01.24.2013 , 03:54 PM | #11
What is the ability the Vanguard has that he uses to repel monsters in the progression it's like he presses a button and there's an explosion monsters die?
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Talon_Starfire
01.25.2013 , 05:49 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by DariusCalera View Post
With the exact same gear on either a dps Commando or dps VG, their HPs are nearly identical with the only difference being the extra 1% given by Soldier's Endurance over Heavy Trooper.

That being said, leveling a VG is fun, I had a blast doing it and it was a nice change from my commando.
If that's the only difference why do people say you'll get killed a lot as Commando?
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Keypek
01.25.2013 , 02:27 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Talon_Starfire View Post
What is the ability the Vanguard has that he uses to repel monsters in the progression it's like he presses a button and there's an explosion monsters die?
Thanks
He used explosive surge in that video if I remember correctly. It's the pbaoe damage ability but you will almost never use it as a vanguard unless you are tank spec. Or randomly trying to get a stealther lol.

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If that's the only difference why do people say you'll get killed a lot as Commando?
There's several reasons. One is that Commandos do not have a decent hard hitting damage ability that is instant like Vanguards have with ion pulse. Not to mention ion pulse auto triggers plasma cells DoT. Which also in turn gives the vanguard an on demand snare via auto plasma cell proc through ion pulse. Also, Ion Pule has a 45% chance to finish the cooldown on HiB where as commando has to cast charged bolts. Also, Vanguards HiB ignores 90% of the targets armor where commando is 60%.

So essentially the vanguard will be killing much faster all while never having to stand still and also have decent kiting ability if needed. Meanwhile, the commando will be standing still trying to get junk to proc while being mauled by 4 sith warriors interupting his casting times so he never gets his procs off anyway or he will stay mobile and lose half the dps the vanguard would be doing. Half might be exaggerating but it isn't to far off.
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Keizak
01.25.2013 , 05:52 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Keypek View Post
He used explosive surge in that video if I remember correctly. It's the pbaoe damage ability but you will almost never use it as a vanguard unless you are tank spec. Or randomly trying to get a stealther lol.



There's several reasons. One is that Commandos do not have a decent hard hitting damage ability that is instant like Vanguards have with ion pulse. Not to mention ion pulse auto triggers plasma cells DoT. Which also in turn gives the vanguard an on demand snare via auto plasma cell proc through ion pulse. Also, Ion Pule has a 45% chance to finish the cooldown on HiB where as commando has to cast charged bolts. Also, Vanguards HiB ignores 90% of the targets armor where commando is 60%.

So essentially the vanguard will be killing much faster all while never having to stand still and also have decent kiting ability if needed. Meanwhile, the commando will be standing still trying to get junk to proc while being mauled by 4 sith warriors interupting his casting times so he never gets his procs off anyway or he will stay mobile and lose half the dps the vanguard would be doing. Half might be exaggerating but it isn't to far off.
Yup, that's the reason I went with vanguard. Screw commando for PVP getting hammered with interrupts.
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