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Dreadtooth "Dread" buff


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Luchsi
01.24.2013 , 01:53 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
“You will lose Drouk Hunter if you return to medcenter, remain out of combat for too long, or if you re-engage Dreadooth at full health.”

So don't go to a medcenter, don't leave combat for more than 1 minute/60 seconds and don't leave leave combat heal up to 100% and rejoin the fight (although I've never tested the last one).
Unfortunately, we didn't even get a chance to do any of these.

It was just: position the tank, position the rest of the OP (in a certain range from the tank an Dreadtooth), pull! Then some got the buff, some don't... a couple of seconds (haven't stoped the time... 3... maybe 5, maybe 7 seconds) later half of the OP goes "boom" with the "Dread"-debuff, some even standing right next to another player still having the buff.
We also skipped the couple of seconds we give our tank to build up aggro during later trys. Unfortunately to no avail.

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Retaining Drouk Hunter isn't the issue, it's odd that out of 12 of you only 6 got the buff though.
That's what confuses me, too. Especially, since there was no "reason" for it. We stood witin arms reach of one another, opened fire/heal together... one get the buff, one the debuff.

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Keep in mind you entering combat seems to have some effect getting the buff, so I'd advise healers to start healing and dps to start dpsing as soon as the tank pulls - try stacking right behind the tank or next to the offtank (you don't need an offtank for 1 stack but it helps).
Right behind the tank is something we'd try... we also stood only about 10 meters away on two or three trys (we also brought a second tank with us, just for backup).

Has anybody downed Dreadtooth within... say... the last two weeks and either encountered this issue, too? Or downed him within that timeframe without any buff/debuff-issues?

(Anyway, thanks for helping. )
Ysissiryl Hitheth-dobluth / Sage / Vanjervalis Chain (formerly: Jen'Jidai (RP-PvP))
Sal'fra Hitheth-dobluth / Operative / T3-M4 (formerly: Sith Triumvirate)
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SomeGuyInABikini
01.24.2013 , 10:56 PM | #12
We had our first run against DT yesterday. We downed him and didn't run into any buff/debuff issues. Our tank pulled, we ran around behind DT and went from there. As we didn't really know what we were doing we were expecting the white circle to do something so this vid shows some hilarity but also that we had no issues:
Dreadtooth Successful Run

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Luchsi
01.25.2013 , 01:22 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by SomeGuyInABikini View Post
We had our first run against DT yesterday. We downed him and didn't run into any buff/debuff issues. Our tank pulled, we ran around behind DT and went from there. As we didn't really know what we were doing we were expecting the white circle to do something so this vid shows some hilarity but also that we had no issues:
Dreadtooth Successful Run
Ah, good to know/see.

Even if we basically did nearly anything the same way you did and I still have no clue what caused the debuff... it's really good to see that it "works".

I'll have my guild/friends-OP start on the same spot (unstimed, unflaged etc.) and try to narrow it down from there.

And Congrats.

Ysissiryl Hitheth-dobluth / Sage / Vanjervalis Chain (formerly: Jen'Jidai (RP-PvP))
Sal'fra Hitheth-dobluth / Operative / T3-M4 (formerly: Sith Triumvirate)
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TripleMe
01.25.2013 , 04:26 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Luchsi View Post
Ah, good to know/see.

Even if we basically did nearly anything the same way you did and I still have no clue what caused the debuff... it's really good to see that it "works".

I'll have my guild/friends-OP start on the same spot (unstimed, unflaged etc.) and try to narrow it down from there.

And Congrats.

Ensure your healers dont have any bubbles / HOTs on people and your offtanks are not guarding anyone at start. It took us a lot of wipes to understand this . What we found happens is that a healer places a bubble on tank, tank pulls and takes damage which is absorbed by the bubble. This counts as healing, but the healer hasn't got the drouk hunter buff yet. So healer gets debuffed and dies. Same for scoundrel HOTs.

Basically, stay close to the boss at pull, and don't perform ANY offensive / defensive action till you get the drouk hunter buff.

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Greekc
01.25.2013 , 06:18 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by TripleMe View Post
Ensure your healers dont have any bubbles / HOTs on people and your offtanks are not guarding anyone at start. It took us a lot of wipes to understand this . What we found happens is that a healer places a bubble on tank, tank pulls and takes damage which is absorbed by the bubble. This counts as healing, but the healer hasn't got the drouk hunter buff yet. So healer gets debuffed and dies. Same for scoundrel HOTs.

Basically, stay close to the boss at pull, and don't perform ANY offensive / defensive action till you get the drouk hunter buff.
I dont think this is correct.Last night we downed him at 5 stacks,all 3 tanks were shielded and had HOT's and still noone died instanly.By the way loot at 5 stacks is the same(2 masks,2essences,an implant and a stab),but u get a codex entry.That thing with the PvP flag is correct though.And shield always counts as absorbe not heal.

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dhowl
01.25.2013 , 06:37 AM | #16
Grats. How many ppl were you when you took him down?