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Etiquitte for needing in SM Ops


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NoFishing
01.24.2013 , 10:57 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Brutal View Post
i dont see a problem abouth to reach my 6th lvl 50 toon when i join op grup i say im after such class loot so will need on it the way i see it i can bring my way over geared toon and just run ops without any problems or come with my low geared toon and contribute less to the op then i can with better geared toon but i ask before we start op if others are ok with it if not i drop before we start
Except this was for a lightsaber, and there is no current way to even legacy transfer one of those.

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mikebevo
01.24.2013 , 11:05 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by NoFishing View Post
Except this was for a lightsaber, and there is no current way to even legacy transfer one of those.
That does make a HUGE difference.

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NoFishing
01.24.2013 , 11:10 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by abokado View Post
I was wondering what is acceptable if I'm after gear for my offspec. I'm playing a juggernaut and just recently decided to do some tanking (so I don't have to wait ages for queues to pop) and since I only have DPS gear right now I would very much like to need on the warrior columi pieces, but since everyone can see that my current gear is above Columi this would probably seem like a dick move. I should just probably ask, but I'm already making a bad impression because I have no headset and didn't know the operation or something.
Just ask before hand: "Can I need for tank-spec? I'll trade to any that need for main spec". Obviously the way I phrased that, if there is a lesser-geared DPS or tank warrior in the group, they will also be rolling need, and I'd expect you to trade your drops to them if you win them.

Or get yourself a tionese/columi shield for your offhand, and just go as a tank.

Quote: Originally Posted by abokado View Post
And I was wondering, what is the etiquette for needing on non-gear? I'm talking about speeder and crafting mats and the likes. I always pick greed if it's something I can use or want, but yesterday some guy in tionese kept on needing on the nice speeder and some crafting mats. Nobody else in the group said something about that, so I'm not sure. Though I put him on ignore after that. Maybe no one looked who picked what? Since there are a lot of people greeding and the chat window gets long and everything and almost no one there really needed the gear that dropped.
I say if you want a speeder to use, roll need. The exception is the Tirsa Elite, which vendors for 150k, so everybody rolls need on that all the time. For mats it depends on the group, so ask beforehand. Also, the only mats most people care about these days are molecular stabilizers, so if it wasn't that, I doubt anyone else would have noticed or cared. Most groups running ops for these use master looter and distribute after. In our runs, all mats are greed rolls, and this is announced at the start. If a PuG rolls need on mats, they are instantly booted from the group, no questions, no discussion.

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LogicalPremise
01.24.2013 , 07:02 PM | #24
I'll say this -- if the guy had asked , I'd have said "Hey, I really need that because I want to move up into better gear". If it had been ANY of the pieces I could buy with Col tokens I probably , honestly would have let it go. I can just get it from tokens which have zero other uses anyway.

But the mainhand is kind of important. Some guy said "just buy a 27 hilt", sorry,not everyone wants to blow that kind of cash or mats. At this point I'm saving for augments for my BH and WZ gear, augment kits, mods for the garbage that ends up in the stock gear, not to mention repair costs from people who can't listen to instructions.

I'll just keep grinding, but if I see anyone from this guy's guild, I'm dropping. If I see the guy, I'm dropping. That's one less tank for your FP and OP's due to this guy.
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Swaption
01.24.2013 , 07:18 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by SnoggyMack View Post
Why would that bother anyone?
Because if you are a level 50 in a 49 warzone with legacy'd WH mods, you will basically be walking around 2-shotting people (on top of having 17k hp). Unfortunately you can only do this once per character.
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Irxyyy
01.25.2013 , 12:50 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Mistress_Ivi View Post
Rule of thumb. Wait for all players to greed, if all before you have done so - THEN ask if it's okay, if you want the purple crystal... or for a comp, if ANY of the group says no... greed like everyone else and move on.

Heck, I feel bad when I run greeds for gear I can't use - to the point I'll offer it away to groupies, if someone wants it... they get it.
PASS?
I personally dislike even when people ask to need for companions, since that's what greed is for - your main can't use it, but you need it for companions/mods/etc. If you don't need it at all, just PASS.
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Jules
01.25.2013 , 08:24 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by abokado View Post
And I was wondering, what is the etiquette for needing on non-gear? I'm talking about speeder and crafting mats and the likes. I always pick greed if it's something I can use or want, but yesterday some guy in tionese kept on needing on the nice speeder and some crafting mats. Nobody else in the group said something about that, so I'm not sure. Though I put him on ignore after that. Maybe no one looked who picked what? Since there are a lot of people greeding and the chat window gets long and everything and almost no one there really needed the gear that dropped.
This needs more clarification too, it seems to vary from person to person. Did my first Op the other night and the Tirsa Elite vehicle was dropped, so I rolled greed. Because, I don't NEED it, but would like it, either to use or sell it (greed, right?). But this guy who wasn't in our guild rolled Need and won it, as well as the crafting materials. Nobody said anything to him.
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LogicalPremise
01.25.2013 , 08:54 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Irxyyy View Post
PASS?
I personally dislike even when people ask to need for companions, since that's what greed is for - your main can't use it, but you need it for companions/mods/etc. If you don't need it at all, just PASS.
In FP I greed on anything. In OPs I pass on anything the character I am playing at that time cannot use himself. Under no circumstances will I need on anything I can't use on that character, and if it's me and one other guy and his gear is worse than mine I'll let him have it.

It just galls me that some people are that fail that they feel the need to rob from players to gear their companions. Again -- sorc full heal , soloed all the HK H2's and run my dailies with zero issues, and my companion is in a mix of 50's from the GTN and tionese I outgrew. There is NO reason to gear your companions in columni you steal from others by needing on it when you can't use it unless you have completely fail skills , can't l2interrupt, and are a bad.
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SnoggyMack
01.25.2013 , 11:56 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by abokado View Post
And I was wondering, what is the etiquette for needing on non-gear? I'm talking about speeder and crafting mats and the likes. I always pick greed if it's something I can use or want, but yesterday some guy in tionese kept on needing on the nice speeder and some crafting mats. Nobody else in the group said something about that, so I'm not sure. Though I put him on ignore after that. Maybe no one looked who picked what? Since there are a lot of people greeding and the chat window gets long and everything and almost no one there really needed the gear that dropped.
Why would you put someone on ignore for rolling need on a speeder? And crafting mats? That seems a bit extreme of you. There's got to be more to it than just that. Like did the person act out? Did you talk to the person? Were they being a jerk? If all that happened was they rolled need on a speeder and crafting mats and you put them on ignore without talking about it, when everyone else also said nothing? That's crazy. How long is your ignore list?
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SnoggyMack
01.25.2013 , 11:57 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Swaption View Post
Because if you are a level 50 in a 49 warzone with legacy'd WH mods, you will basically be walking around 2-shotting people (on top of having 17k hp). Unfortunately you can only do this once per character.
But it just doesn't last that long you know? You don't stay 49 forever. Just seems like something to not really get stressed about. Heck, since it's such a huge gear disparity at work, then for once SKILL has nothing to do with it, so there's even less to get upset about you know?
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