Defensive Cooldown for Sorcerer/Sage

You know what Jack? I does not matter. All of what we are saying about the Sorcerers/Sages falls on deaf ears. BW does not give one flying frack about the classes they screwed over at 1.2. All these defenders of the status quo do not care about the Sorcerer/Sage class. They want things to stay the same so they get theirs and we don't.

Such is life. It is what it is. Nothing will change. If BW does buff the Sorcerer/Sage classes it will be meaningless. If they give these classes something meaningful, all those defending the status quo will QQ about them being OP. It is a never ending cycle. All their QQing got us screwed in the first place.

Arguing for a buff in defense and major burst damage is a waste of time. BW will never do it because they don't want to piss off and alienate their crop of "Professional PvPers." BW caters to those people and willfully alienates the casual PvPers. The rest of us can be damned for all the BW cares. If that wasn't the case, the godlike nerf of 1.2 would never have happened.

Jeeez, are you trying to say that Sorcerer pre 1.2 was not overpowered?

you would need more alacrity than reasonable to get lightning strike down to a 1.3 second cast currently I run 267 alacrity and 267 surge and my lightning strike cast is only 1.4 seconds. If they made it instant cast yes is would lower damage but it would make it possible to buff the damage of attacks like thundering blast without harming pve balancing.

Honestly I would be happy if 'Egress' was available to DPS specs.

no. no. no. No root immunity / cleanse for non healer.

In comparison to operative healers, the ease of getting big numbers on a PT or rage specs I'd have to say yes. Don't know if people were more civilized a year ago but when I went back to compare sorc complaints to the complaints we see 20 times per day now I saw much less of it. And this was during a time when the population was 5 times bigger. One would think that the forum would be filled by repeat topics if it was such a big issue.

My opinion was that it, in relation to the light armor, was balanced. There's nothing balanced with having an array of defensive cooldowns AND 2-3 abilties that hit for more than the hardest hitting ability of other AC'es.

DPS? On the scoreboard, yes we were OP'd, but.....It was filler AoE/DoTs, as it still is today... The only requirement was cooperative opponents that bunch together and allowed freecasting.


Sage/Sorc DPS has never been on the level of other DPS specs. AoE made it look better than it actually was. The Proc nerf along with the Relic/Adrenal nerf killed the DPS specs...


While a DFCD, that you can spec into (no healers allowed) would be good, the main issue is the TK/Lite tree needs more burst off of instant attacks and the Bal/Mad tree needs another low tier root and stronger returns on mitigation and healing (procs off DoTs)skills. Then I might consider the "Balance" tree actually balanced.

Is that what you think? Did I say that? Or it is what you believe? Either way you are dead wrong. Was there a nerf needed? Sure. However, not to the extent that rendered the Sorcerer/Sage near uselessness. Now, 4 patches later, these same classes struggle to do anything useful in a WZ. They are the joke of the game now in PvP. You want an easy 5k medal? Kill a Sorcerer/Sage. You want to get multiple medals? Kill all the Sorcerers/Sages you can fine. They cannot kill you by themselves, not without help and that are few and far between now.

What we, those that are advocating defensive measures and buffs to have single burst type attack damage want, is to see the Sorcerers/Sages brought into line with everyone else. You on the other hand, like the other 'defenders of the status quo' want to keep it exactly the way it is. How about this, no Sages or Sorcerers show up in any more Warzones? That these ACs just refuse to participate anymore until such time that BW gets off their collective asses and does something that will bring these classes in line with every other class. I think that would be an extreme measure, but it would be effective to get something to happen. But should all those who play these classes do such a thing, you and the other 'defenders of the status quo' would ***** and moan about having now Sorcerer/Healer in a Warzone. We are either damned if we do or damned if we do not.

It would behoove you and the rest to actually listen to our suggestions and complaints of lack of survivability, damage mitigation, and defensive cool downs, and no burst damage and help us convince BW to fix the problem. No, instead you want to exacerbate the problems on the boards by calling us Noobs, L2P, demean us as QQers, and insult our intelligence. Enough is enough. Either help us or get the **** out of the way so we can get something positive from BW to fix the huge imbalance that exists between the Sorcerer/Sage and the rest of the ACs in the Warzones.

Yes yes yes. Force speed isn't much of a defensive ability, if I have to use an entirely separate ability to make sure it works, such as stunning someone just to make sure they don't root me when I try to run away. The class's entire survival strategy is to run away, they should at least be able to run away effectively.

And all Sages have a cleanse, healers can just spec it to remove physical effects and heal a bit.

I guess every marauder plays smash huh? And my point of that post is that you were 2 button scrubs and were still bad back then, it was just FOTM and you thought you were gods like most of the smash monkies today who couldn't cut it with a real spec.