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tharbison
12.20.2011 , 03:30 PM | #1
I've only been in a few FP groups so far, and it probably doesn't matter much at low levels, but what's up with groups scattering in a room each taking different mobs?! What ever happened to helping the tank! As a healer it will drive you crazy. Especially when people are on opposite sides of the room and get out of range of heals (why didn't you heal me?!).

Work as a unit people! Stand united! Your healers will thank you!

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Akzent
12.20.2011 , 03:36 PM | #2
Cause ppl are idiots... Have had a few groups where I'm tanking and ppl just rush in all gung ho then when they die, why weren't you healing or why weren't you tanking lol some ppl are just retarded Rambo wannabe's
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LA_Hague
12.20.2011 , 03:38 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by tharbison View Post
I've only been in a few FP groups so far, and it probably doesn't matter much at low levels, but what's up with groups scattering in a room each taking different mobs?! What ever happened to helping the tank! As a healer it will drive you crazy. Especially when people are on opposite sides of the room and get out of range of heals (why didn't you heal me?!).

Work as a unit people! Stand united! Your healers will thank you!
Agreed. I've been tanking as a Powertech, only at level 28 currently. Most of my groups simply do whatever they want until they die, and then they chill and stick together, let tank get aggro, etc.

I think a few more user-friendly UI additions by Bioware may help out. Most people are probably too used to DBM, Omen, etc. to help them choose targets.
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Mavery
12.20.2011 , 03:41 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by LA_Hague View Post
Agreed. I've been tanking as a Powertech, only at level 28 currently. Most of my groups simply do whatever they want until they die, and then they chill and stick together, let tank get aggro, etc.

I think a few more user-friendly UI additions by Bioware may help out. Most people are probably too used to DBM, Omen, etc. to help them choose targets.
Add-ons do not fix idiocy.

OP, I say let them do this. If they die, it's their fault, not the tank's. If the problem persists, drop group and get non-useless DPS in your group.

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tharbison
12.20.2011 , 03:43 PM | #5
As a healer I think I'm just going to heal the group that sticks with the tank. If you want to poke your head around the corner/see what's in the closet on the other side of the room do so at your own risk! We'll scoop ya up after we're done

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Kagek
12.20.2011 , 03:55 PM | #6
Depends on what kind of tank you are, if you're a guardian/jugg you might have trouble getting those mobs on you. Then they're running around attacking healers so no reason for other guys not to be off-tanking them.

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RellikXTC
12.20.2011 , 04:01 PM | #7
Sure, helping offtank is one thing, running around like an idiot thinking you can do what you want is the issue tho. As a healer I have seen FAR to many people thinking they are a one man army. Im also getting irritated with the people using their most powerfull area of effect weapons after I and other group members crowed control things. Im going to just start letting those ******* die.

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Kneemo
12.20.2011 , 04:10 PM | #8
i'm an assassin dps.

say there's a group that has, say, 2 strong level mobs and 2 normal mobs. i will typically kill off the 2 normal mobs first even if that's not the one the tank is attacking.

i do this for a couple reasons:

1.
i noticed a kind of lack of multi target attacks for tanks at my level of groups (lvl 22), unless they just decide not to use them around me. i also don't have any aoe attacks except the one that pushes all the enemies. but a tank got mad at me for using it so i quit using it unless i'm pushing enemies into a trap area. but my point is, those mobs have to die faster than "one at a time." trash should not end up being an endurance fight like a boss fight.

2.
normal level mobs are underestimated in large numbers. killing them off quickly reduces damage the tank takes a lot. so, once they're aggro'd to the tank, all it takes usually is one Maul and a Thrash to kill one off. and i can usually handle a strong level mob without help from the healer, especially since i can seethe after the fight.

there are other situations where i'd attack other targets but those are too "in the moment" for me to remember. and obviously i attack any elite leveled mobs that the tank is attacking.

i don't consider this "tanking" or not allowing the tank to tank. especially when this method works wonderfully in my groups. the idea that dps should just attack what the tank is attacking is retarded and very limiting to any kind of strategy. tanks complain that they have all the responsibility and yet they won't give anybody any of it even if they wanted it.

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Fluffyburrito
12.20.2011 , 04:39 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Kneemo View Post
i'm an assassin dps.

say there's a group that has, say, 2 strong level mobs and 2 normal mobs. i will typically kill off the 2 normal mobs first even if that's not the one the tank is attacking.

i do this for a couple reasons:

1.
i noticed a kind of lack of multi target attacks for tanks at my level of groups (lvl 22), unless they just decide not to use them around me. i also don't have any aoe attacks except the one that pushes all the enemies. but a tank got mad at me for using it so i quit using it unless i'm pushing enemies into a trap area. but my point is, those mobs have to die faster than "one at a time." trash should not end up being an endurance fight like a boss fight.

2.
normal level mobs are underestimated in large numbers. killing them off quickly reduces damage the tank takes a lot. so, once they're aggro'd to the tank, all it takes usually is one Maul and a Thrash to kill one off. and i can usually handle a strong level mob without help from the healer, especially since i can seethe after the fight.

there are other situations where i'd attack other targets but those are too "in the moment" for me to remember. and obviously i attack any elite leveled mobs that the tank is attacking.

i don't consider this "tanking" or not allowing the tank to tank. especially when this method works wonderfully in my groups. the idea that dps should just attack what the tank is attacking is retarded and very limiting to any kind of strategy. tanks complain that they have all the responsibility and yet they won't give anybody any of it even if they wanted it.
Well-written but no one is actually having problems with folks killing normals. Nobody should be dying to those. Force-leaping ahead while our Jedi Sage is out of force and thinking you're just going to zerg it down is what's the problem.

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Kneemo
12.20.2011 , 04:52 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Fluffyburrito View Post
Well-written but no one is actually having problems with folks killing normals. Nobody should be dying to those. Force-leaping ahead while our Jedi Sage is out of force and thinking you're just going to zerg it down is what's the problem.
i will agree 100% to that, there is no excuse to leap in unprepared.