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To all the Star Wars fans out there, I have a question.

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To all the Star Wars fans out there, I have a question.

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AmericanHoplite
01.20.2013 , 03:44 AM | #1
I've been a Star Wars fan ever since I can remember, anything.... really.

I just threw in A New Hope, and am at the part where Luke Skywalker is asking his uncle about Ben Kenobi being Obi-Wan.

I stopped it to ask a question that I have wanted the answer to for a long time, now.

Firstly, how does everyone understand R2? And all the other languages out there. Was it just for convince purpose for the movie, or is there an actual reason that I'm missing?
And secondly, I understand at the end of Episode III Bail Organa had both R2 and C-3POs memories erased, but I was curious as to why Obi-Wan didn't remember them.

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Elementlord
01.20.2013 , 03:59 AM | #2
Luke and his Aunt/Uncle had worked with plenty of droids before, so they probably picked it up earlier.

IIRC, 3PO was the only one who got memory-wiped by Bail, R2 still knew everything, which would've been why he remembered Obi-wan and 3PO didn't.

As for Obi-wan, I'm guessing he was playing dumb just to be safe.

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AlexDougherty
01.20.2013 , 04:23 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Elementlord View Post
Luke and his Aunt/Uncle had worked with plenty of droids before, so they probably picked it up earlier.

IIRC, 3PO was the only one who got memory-wiped by Bail, R2 still knew everything, which would've been why he remembered Obi-wan and 3PO didn't.

As for Obi-wan, I'm guessing he was playing dumb just to be safe.
Actually R2 got memory wiped too, all droids got frequent memory wipes, but Princes Leia inserted a disc/something (plus her message to him) which contained mission details, That's why R2 knew about Obi-Wan and Luke divulged his approximate location. C3PO however was elsewhere at the time, and so didn't get the mission, he just thought R2 was acting up.
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turnoverla-page
01.20.2013 , 04:38 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by AlexDougherty View Post
Actually R2 got memory wiped too, all droids got frequent memory wipes, but Princes Leia inserted a disc/something (plus her message to him) which contained mission details, That's why R2 knew about Obi-Wan and Luke divulged his approximate location. C3PO however was elsewhere at the time, and so didn't get the mission, he just thought R2 was acting up.
r2 didnt get his memory wipped it was just "protical droids mind wiped". r2 never had his mind wiped since leaving naboo. and konobi owned r4 not r2

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YoshiRaphElan
01.20.2013 , 08:31 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by AlexDougherty View Post
Actually R2 got memory wiped too,
R2 never got a memory wipe. In the Dark Nest novels, he actually plays scenes from ROTS for Luke, in which Luke finds out his mother is Padme. R2 could not do this if he'd been wiped.

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annabethchase
01.20.2013 , 10:54 PM | #6
It seems most people who worked with droids understood the language.

R2 never gets his memory wiped. He's the lorekeeper for the entire series.

Obi-wan said "I can't recall ever owning a droid". He often answered questions in a way to not reveal too much to Luke all at once. His statement is true, he never did "own" a droid, and definitely not r2. Technically Jedi don't own their droids, the order does.
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GarfieldJL
01.20.2013 , 11:05 PM | #7
Additionally R2 hadn't seen Obi Wan in over a decade, and he really aged between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope...

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_Darkstar
01.21.2013 , 06:26 AM | #8
It was a mistake in the film. Love the fanboys scrambling for excuses though
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old_benn
01.21.2013 , 11:38 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by AmericanHoplite View Post
Firstly, how does everyone understand R2?
Luke doesn't actually understand exactly what R2 is saying. Only 3PO knows exactly what R2 is saying. Luke (and others) can guess R2's intent based on whether the sounds he makes are "positive" or "negative", etc.

As proof that Luke does not understand him verbatim, I'll point you to Empire Strikes Back. Luke and R2 just got to Dagobah, R2 tweedles something to Luke, and Luke replies:

"If you're saying coming here was a bad idea, I'm beginning to agree with you."
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jarjarloves
01.22.2013 , 04:31 AM | #10
like other said R2 doesn't get his memory wiped... which means he is kinda of a jerk. R2 knows everything, he is there when Luke is born, he knows who his father and mother is, he knows who his sister is, yet he says nothing.

However Obi wan not reckonizing or even Owen not reckonizing either of them is a bit of a plot hole. There is no way the guy who owned C-3po for years and who put that metal skin on him wouldn't know him.