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So I have never done a HM Flash Point...

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So I have never done a HM Flash Point...

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Mr_Elotes
01.19.2013 , 05:12 AM | #1
Just like the title states. Not one. Now that I think about it, I have done only 1 and it was pre-50 (the one where you cross something and if you are too unsober, the beam kills you since you cant stop looking in to light). I pvp 98% of the time with usually the only pve stuff that I do are the black hole dailies. Thats it.

So what's the point of this thread? After a year of playing the game, I wanna try some flash points. I usually see on the fleet "must know fights" and what not so I know that they do not want an unexperienced person and I dont want to waste their time as well as mine by asking for an invite. Now I do not want to join a guild in order to do flash points. I know a few ppl have been willing to let me run with them and on top of it, they actually said that I can use my dps operative. I kinda don't wanna hamper the team and give ppl back problems for carrying me. I have a few other 50's and kinda wanna try them out. I usually play late night (midnightish to 6-7ish pst sun-tues).

So if you feel like showing someone who usually only PVPs to do Flash points (I do understand cc NPCs and not using aoes to "wake" them and focusing on one of them) it will be greatly appreciated and more than likely help me enjoy the game even more. Send me a whisper in game or reply in this thread and I'll hit you up. Thanks a ton in advance.
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Alduinsm
01.19.2013 , 05:54 AM | #2
_Wait for the tank to pull first.
_Kill order for mobs is from weakest to strongest.
_Avoid aoe.
_You should attack the mob that the tank is currently attacking (when all the others weaker mobs are cleared).
*Or you can just play it safe, imitate the other dps in the group if possible.

That's all you need for HM FP.
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Sowwy
01.19.2013 , 08:25 AM | #3
_Drink copious amounts of coffee or energy drinks. Once acclimated to the pvp environment, HFPS is a skill-less, boring endeavor.

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criminalheretic
01.19.2013 , 01:52 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Mr_Elotes View Post
Just like the title states. Not one. Now that I think about it, I have done only 1 and it was pre-50 (the one where you cross something and if you are too unsober, the beam kills you since you cant stop looking in to light). I pvp 98% of the time with usually the only pve stuff that I do are the black hole dailies. Thats it.

So what's the point of this thread? After a year of playing the game, I wanna try some flash points. I usually see on the fleet "must know fights" and what not so I know that they do not want an unexperienced person and I dont want to waste their time as well as mine by asking for an invite. Now I do not want to join a guild in order to do flash points. I know a few ppl have been willing to let me run with them and on top of it, they actually said that I can use my dps operative. I kinda don't wanna hamper the team and give ppl back problems for carrying me. I have a few other 50's and kinda wanna try them out. I usually play late night (midnightish to 6-7ish pst sun-tues).

So if you feel like showing someone who usually only PVPs to do Flash points (I do understand cc NPCs and not using aoes to "wake" them and focusing on one of them) it will be greatly appreciated and more than likely help me enjoy the game even more. Send me a whisper in game or reply in this thread and I'll hit you up. Thanks a ton in advance.
First of all, if you PvP all the time, I'm assuming you have all WH or EWH, which is pretty close to Rakata Gear, when most of the HMFP are meant to be done in Tionese/Columi so even if you're being carried, you should feel pretty light.

My question is, why do you want to do HM FP's? They're pretty much exactly the same as the SM versions, with stronger mobs. So if you're looking for an egaging gaming experience, you're probably not going to find it in HMFP's. Plus at the risk of sounding like an elitist PvPer...they are kinda easy. Anyone saying "must know fights" for anything other than LI or Kaon, probably isn't very good themselves.

My advice is just use the GF. You'll almost always get in there with someone who knows how to skip 85% of the trash. Just tell them up front "never done this before, so I'm following you". Grind out some BH comms/Gear, then run some Operations, which CAN be engaging and challenging.
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IAmViiOLENT
01.19.2013 , 07:26 PM | #5
If you'd like, you can find me on any of the toons I list in my signature for imp side. I wouldn't mind queueing with someone else to do some content.

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Mr_Elotes
01.19.2013 , 09:10 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by criminalheretic View Post
First of all, if you PvP all the time, I'm assuming you have all WH or EWH, which is pretty close to Rakata Gear, when most of the HMFP are meant to be done in Tionese/Columi so even if you're being carried, you should feel pretty light.

My question is, why do you want to do HM FP's? They're pretty much exactly the same as the SM versions, with stronger mobs. So if you're looking for an egaging gaming experience, you're probably not going to find it in HMFP's. Plus at the risk of sounding like an elitist PvPer...they are kinda easy. Anyone saying "must know fights" for anything other than LI or Kaon, probably isn't very good themselves.

My advice is just use the GF. You'll almost always get in there with someone who knows how to skip 85% of the trash. Just tell them up front "never done this before, so I'm following you". Grind out some BH comms/Gear, then run some Operations, which CAN be engaging and challenging.

I might have been a little vague in my post. I have only done 1 flash point, ever and it was pre-50. Also, please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought SM flash points are pre- 50? Or are they "entry" level mode for the flash point at 50? I took HM flash points as being this. And apparently they are also different from operations. Is the only difference the difficulty and number of ppl (4 to 8)? I am truly ignorant when it comes to what is what on flash points. You are correct, most of my toons are either min/max or partially there in e/wh gear. As far as a reason for me doing them? I guess, for me, it is something new that the game has to offer me after a year of playing it.
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criminalheretic
01.20.2013 , 12:26 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Mr_Elotes View Post
I might have been a little vague in my post. I have only done 1 flash point, ever and it was pre-50. Also, please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought SM flash points are pre- 50? Or are they "entry" level mode for the flash point at 50? I took HM flash points as being this. And apparently they are also different from operations. Is the only difference the difficulty and number of ppl (4 to 8)? I am truly ignorant when it comes to what is what on flash points. You are correct, most of my toons are either min/max or partially there in e/wh gear. As far as a reason for me doing them? I guess, for me, it is something new that the game has to offer me after a year of playing it.
SM flashpoints are from Black Talon at level 10, all the way up to False Emperor and Battle of Ilum at level 50 etc. I was just saying that the only difference between HM and SM is toughness of bad guys. Sorry I mistakenly assumed you had run the SM FP's as you were leveling.

The difference between FP's and Operations, is yes, 4 man vs 8 man (Or 16). But in general operations tend to be a lot more involved, with much more complicated mechanics for the Boss Fights and of course with much better gear and mat drops (Dulfy.net to see what).

And by all means knock out some HM flashpoints, I was just sharing my opinion that if you are looking for something new other than PvP, operations are a lot more interesting/challenging than FP's. And in WH/EWH, you should be good all the way up to TFB SM, with a competent team around you.
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DarkSaberMaster
01.20.2013 , 08:30 AM | #8
Yep. Like dude said. HMFP's are pretty easy. Especially because the people that you get in a queue group with know how to skip most of the trash. I thought that when I first played them, that they would be difficult. But I saw that they weren't any harder than the SM versions. Granted. I am in full WH gear cause all I do is PvP. But yeah. They are pretty easy.
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01.20.2013 , 08:32 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Alduinsm View Post
_Wait for the tank to pull first.
_Kill order for mobs is from weakest to strongest.
_Avoid aoe.
_You should attack the mob that the tank is currently attacking (when all the others weaker mobs are cleared).
*Or you can just play it safe, imitate the other dps in the group if possible.

That's all you need for HM FP.
Pretty much this right here.
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SnoggyMack
01.22.2013 , 09:53 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by criminalheretic View Post
Anyone saying "must know fights" for anything other than LI or Kaon, probably isn't very good themselves.
That's not really the case with the other FPs you mention. People say that because they want to breeze through the content, skip mobs, and kind of just steamroll the boss fights without having to take time to kill trash mobs along the way and explain the fights before they happen. That's all. It's just people wanting to save time.
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