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I'm terribly disapointed by cartel packs.

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I'm terribly disapointed by cartel packs.
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jgoldsack
01.17.2013 , 10:23 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by LogicalPremise View Post
If the person used all the mounts first, or isn't waiting for the timer that clearly says bound for XXX, then it's a ID 10 T error.
There is no way to use a mount and still have it in your inventory, the item disappears.

OP, you may be bugged, I would put in a ticket, as far as not being able to list vehicle on the GTN. However, that does not excuse you from ranting about not being able to sell Revan's Mask, when it clearly is an easy sell for even 200k. I have never had an issue selling anything from the packs via trade chat. And it doesn't take very long either.
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DamionSchubert
01.17.2013 , 02:02 PM | #92 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
There are a few questions raised in this thread.

Do items put in the Galactic Trade Network sell?
Yes. We have metrics, as well, on what sells, and for what price, which we compare to their drop rates. This gives us a great idea on adjustments we should make for future packs (the drop rates and the pack contents themselves) - which means that our next round of packs will be better, and the ones after that will be better again.

Here are some fun stats
* The White indestructible crystal Median Buyout price = 1.4 million credits
* The Overlord’s Command Throne Median Buyout Price = 1.75 million credits
* The Dominator’s Command Throne Median buyout price = 1.50 million credits
* The imperial banner Median buyout price = 250 credits
* Ruddyscale Kowakian Monkey-Lizard median buyout price = 500,000 credits
* Elegant Loungewear Top median buyout price = 22,000 credits

This is interesting, in that the thrones are much less rare than the crystal. The metrics we have on what sells and what doesn't are excellent, which means that we should get better and better at pushing our resources towards things that players actually want.



Are there any truly absurd prices out there?
Absolutely. I can tell you one person bought an Imperial Banner off the GTN for 310000 credits.


Are we aware that some items can't be sold on the GTN (i.e. the game won't let you)?
Yeah, those are bugs, and in the case of the lightsaber crystals, ones that we should have caught easily, since it's happened multiple times. In every case I can think of off the top of my head, these are unintentional bugs, and should get fixed. It's not our intention that people should be standing around spamming the fleet about these.


Are you guys aware that there's a ton of dupe items clogging our inventory?
We totally are. This is particularly true of the more common bonus items that are repeated through multiple packs. We are constructing our next round of packs (i.e. the round that will start when Rise of the Hutt Cartel ships) with a definite eye on reducing this level of suck.


Why can't I sell some of this junk that is worthless on the GTN?
We are examining that possibility, and even if we did so, we would likely make the sale price negligible, to avoid having too harsh an effect on the economy (I don't want buying Cartel Packs to be a particularly effective and reliable way to get credits). That being said, there's a very good chance that some of these items may be retired in the future - an Imperial Banner or Dominator Throne that enjoys a certain value now might find that value greatly increased once the packs that sell these disappear - so you might want to selectively choose some of these to bank, rather than junk. This retirement may be permanent, or a temporary removal from service (like the McRib or the Disney DvD releases) That being said, we are still developing our strategy for how these items are retired and/or cycled into service. Once we have a plan, I will be sure we communicate it to the community at large.


It sucks that the Cartel Market/Cartel Packs takes away resources that could be spent on (my pet feature)!
It's quite the opposite, actually. The success of the market (and it has been quite successful) has given us the time and resources to do some ambitious things on Makeb, and plan some very ambitious things beyond. The success of the Cartel Market means that there will be more good stuff for ALL players, paying, subscribers, and free.
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jgoldsack
01.17.2013 , 02:58 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by DamionSchubert View Post
We totally are. This is particularly true of the more common bonus items that are repeated through multiple packs. We are constructing our next round of packs (i.e. the round that will start when Rise of the Hutt Cartel ships) with a definite eye on reducing this level of suck.
This raises a good question. Do you have a pre-set number of packs and items set up ahead of time for a certain period of time, and if so, are there going to be any more "new" packs released before RotHC?
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LukeSaberRattler
01.17.2013 , 03:05 PM | #94
Ignore this post these are not the droids you are looking for move along.
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Sutaka
01.17.2013 , 03:06 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by DamionSchubert View Post
It sucks that the Cartel Market/Cartel Packs takes away resources that could be spent on (my pet feature)!
It's quite the opposite, actually. The success of the market (and it has been quite successful) has given us the time and resources to do some ambitious things on Makeb, and plan some very ambitious things beyond. The success of the Cartel Market means that there will be more good stuff for ALL players, paying, subscribers, and free.
Don't let greed corrupt the game Damion, I've seen it happen to other games.
These packs are a dangerous path you're taking.
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FeelFlow
01.17.2013 , 03:13 PM | #96
I'm pleased to hear that the cartel market has been successful as I want to keep playing a vibrant game. Well done.

I'm looking forward to seeing more great looking gear on the CM - including plain looking Jedi robes (hint hint).

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Lord_Karsk
01.17.2013 , 03:13 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by DamionSchubert View Post
Hay
Can i ask, are you guys aware of thay ALOT of players want animal mounts like Bogas Taun etc etc
and will we get them in the near future ?

Sir, the odds of getting a direct answear from a developer in charge are precisely 720-1

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Arlon_Nabarlly
01.17.2013 , 03:14 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by jgoldsack View Post
This raises a good question. Do you have a pre-set number of packs and items set up ahead of time for a certain period of time, and if so, are there going to be any more "new" packs released before RotHC?
I had the same question. The way I read the yellow post was that he meant that there are packs between now and RotHC but they're pretty much pre-set waiting to show up in the store. It doesn't make sense that they've been doing regular packs but now they will suddenly wait till Spring.

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CosmicKat
01.17.2013 , 03:15 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Sutaka View Post
Don't let greed corrupt the game Damion, I've seen it happen to other games.
These packs are a dangerous path you're taking.
Too late.

His eyes are already glowing red.

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Arlon_Nabarlly
01.17.2013 , 03:15 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by LukeSaberRattler View Post
Cartel ships you say what kind of ships are these you speak of? Are these the same as the toy ships we have now or some more awesome like actual replacement ships for the players????!!!!
Ships as in is delivered to the players aka released. This has nothing to do with physical ships.