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TheBBP
01.17.2013 , 11:39 AM | #41
The bottom line is that many of us rolled our characters on a PVE server due to the fact that we do not care anything for PVP. Putting PVE content in a PVP zone isn't making new content for PVPers, it is turning PVEers into the content for PVPers. If they are going to do that, they should outright call it PVP content or event and tell the PVEers just to walk-off.
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01.17.2013 , 11:46 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
The bottom line is that many of us rolled our characters on a PVE server due to the fact that we do not care anything for PVP. Putting PVE content in a PVP zone isn't making new content for PVPers, it is turning PVEers into the content for PVPers. If they are going to do that, they should outright call it PVP content or event and tell the PVEers just to walk-off.
Seeing as how they announced an event in a PvP area on a PvP planet I don't even see how you could think it was PvE content.
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AlienEyeTX
01.17.2013 , 11:50 AM | #43
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No. You're 100% wrong on the highlighted part. You SHOULD be required to PvP for ANY PvP reward. It's that simple. Just because you PvE only, doesn't mean you're entitled to skip 1/4 of the game. PvP exclusives are perfectly fine. There are tons of activity specific exclusives as it is.

I don't do space...should I be given all the space rewards? I want the orange pilot gear, but I refuse to do space. If you want a PvP reward, PvP for it - fluff items, vanity items, pets, vehicles...ALL are fair game to be PvP exclusives.

Wanting something =/= deserving something.
I did, in fact, state just exactly that. You should PVP for PVP rewards... not to meet PVE objectives. Not sure if they will have us do that, but I certainly hope not. Try paying attention to what people type before you rant.
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01.17.2013 , 11:54 AM | #44
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Seeing as how they announced an event in a PvP area on a PvP planet I don't even see how you could think it was PvE content.
  • Adventure with other Level 50 players or journey alone to assist the Gree in their continual pursuit of information. Those who are brave enough to help the Gree will be rewarded for their service.

NEW RECURRING EVENT: RELICS OF THE GREE
  • Explore Ilum's contested area in the Western Ice Shelf to uncover the mysterious purpose of the Gray Secant, an enormous ancient Gree starship.
  • Get ready to face a powerful opponent that awaits you at the center of this ancient vessel.
  • Earn exclusive Gree technology, including highly-advanced weapon and armor!
  • Look for opportunities to join this recurring event throughout the rest of the year. More details to come!



All of that except the part in red sounds exactly like PVE content. Or is the "powerful opponent that awaits you at the center of this ancient vessel" a highly-rated PVP team?
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CaptainBlackjack
01.17.2013 , 12:08 PM | #45
I will happily join pvp and embrace world pvp as soon as they remove expertise from the game and allow pvp contests to occur only between people of the same level in world pvp. with a balanced system it would be great fun. I have witnessed the worst of it in WoW and Rift, people looking for lower under geared opponents so they can face roll them and farm honor its only fun for the gankers and i am sure that is why BW has not allowed world pvp. You people know who you are so don't bother with the snarky comments. I will say that balanced pvp can be some of the most entertaning game play you could ask for just by the pure unpredictability of the event.

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Capt_Beers
01.17.2013 , 12:10 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
  • Adventure with other Level 50 players or journey alone to assist the Gree in their continual pursuit of information. Those who are brave enough to help the Gree will be rewarded for their service.

NEW RECURRING EVENT: RELICS OF THE GREE
  • Explore Ilum's contested area in the Western Ice Shelf to uncover the mysterious purpose of the Gray Secant, an enormous ancient Gree starship.
  • Get ready to face a powerful opponent that awaits you at the center of this ancient vessel.
  • Earn exclusive Gree technology, including highly-advanced weapon and armor!
  • Look for opportunities to join this recurring event throughout the rest of the year. More details to come!



All of that except the part in red sounds exactly like PVE content. Or is the "powerful opponent that awaits you at the center of this ancient vessel" a highly-rated PVP team?
Sounds like they made some objectives in a PvP area. You know for objective based PvP. In a PvP area. Just because you have to fight an NPC doesn't mean PvP isn't involved. Doesn't WoW have a map like that that everyone is always clamoring about (never played but people bring it up all the time, Alterac Valley I believe). It's also the first bullet point that points out it's in a PvP area.

this is one of the things lots of peopel have been asking for in the PvP forum. Having objectives to take in oPvP. I'm just speculating here but it would be totally possible that the NPC is in an instanced area that you need a buff to enter. a buff that could be gained via PvP objectives. In the PvP area (I really can't stress that enough).

And like I mentioned earlier, for both of the previous events the currency/tokens/gross Rhakgoul slime has been tradeable. save your creds or whatever and buy some to get the items you want. you will never have to PvP.
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01.17.2013 , 12:32 PM | #47
My understanding is that Ilum is a PvP planet regardless of the type of Server you play on. So hold on to your butts!
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01.17.2013 , 12:35 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by AlienEyeTX View Post
I did, in fact, state just exactly that. You should PVP for PVP rewards... not to meet PVE objectives. Not sure if they will have us do that, but I certainly hope not. Try paying attention to what people type before you rant.
What's wrong with PVPing for PVE objectives? You don't have to do it, you're not entitled to everything in the game, you chose to limit the content you play, then you also choose to limit what you can achieve. If it's not game changing gear then there is no reason it can't be PVP for PVE rewards. Want the content? then gear up, team up, or shut up, don't expect everything to be handed to you based on your own agenda.
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BrianDavion
01.17.2013 , 12:37 PM | #49
thing is those of us who rolled on a PVE server presumably aren't intrested in world PVP. so why then does BW feel obliged to force it down our throats everytime we have some new server event?

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01.17.2013 , 12:40 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
  • Adventure with other Level 50 players or journey alone to assist the Gree in their continual pursuit of information. Those who are brave enough to help the Gree will be rewarded for their service.

NEW RECURRING EVENT: RELICS OF THE GREE
  • Explore Ilum's contested area in the Western Ice Shelf to uncover the mysterious purpose of the Gray Secant, an enormous ancient Gree starship.
  • Get ready to face a powerful opponent that awaits you at the center of this ancient vessel.
  • Earn exclusive Gree technology, including highly-advanced weapon and armor!
  • Look for opportunities to join this recurring event throughout the rest of the year. More details to come!



All of that except the part in red sounds exactly like PVE content. Or is the "powerful opponent that awaits you at the center of this ancient vessel" a highly-rated PVP team?
where is this quote from cause the quote from the actual release info
http://www.swtor.com/info/news/news-article/20130115

says

Quote:
Game Update 1.7: Return of the Gree is coming soon to The Old Republic™, allowing players to experience brand new in-game content, including a limited time event and an exciting new way to progress your character.

•Explore the Planet Ilum to unveil a new Event, Relics of the Gree! A mysterious ancient Gree starship called “the Gray Secant” has appeared over Ilum’s Western Ice Shelf. Those who are brave enough will get the chance to help the Gree and face off against a powerful foe waiting in the heart of the Gree vessel. Republic and Imperial forces that finish this mission will earn exclusive Gree technology, including highly advanced weapon and armor appearances!

•Advance your character with the new Galactic Reputation system! The Galactic Reputation system lets you earn Reputation points by completing missions for factions such as the Gree or the Voss, or for military divisions within the Republic and the Empire. This new system advances characters through six ranks of increasing prestige: “Outsider”, "Newcomer", "Friend", "Hero", "Champion", and "Legend". Galactic Reputation is also tied to a character’s Legacy, so Reputation points and ranks are shared across all the characters within the same Legacy!

Visit the Game Updates Page for additional information and screenshots of the content coming to Game Update 1.7. As always, you can stay connected with Star Wars: The Old Republic through Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
it directly makes a comment about "Those who are brave enough will get the chance to [B][I][U]help the Gree and face off against a powerful foe waiting in the heart of the Gree vessel" which is a PVE reference .. to a boss.

No where in that entire statement does it say anything about contested anything ... and since there stance has always been to never force pvp on anyone... an event which holds an item they have been promising for months to PVEers (legacy lightsaber) would be a BIG mistake to make it PVP centric.

they also said that they would be reworking illum because PVP has never worked there and was always used for nothing more then kill trading before they illiminated it.
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