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Concern for 1.7


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Lord_of_Mu
01.16.2013 , 08:04 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by LogicalPremise View Post
Not sure if senile or trolling:

The rakghoul event world boss in Outlaw's Den that resulted in people getting ganked over and over.
The HK part in Outlaw's Den that resulted in people getting ganked over and over.

Third time's the charm? I'm sure they wouldn't do anything short sighted and stupid like three times in a row.
Would be the case. Unless the entire zone becomes a lake wintergraps style pvp zone that only flags people during a contested period. That would certainly revive PvP on Ilum with out forcing the PvErs into a slaughter.

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SturmUndSterne
01.16.2013 , 08:10 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Elfa View Post
They're saying it's all in the contested area of the Western Ice shelf, that's the open world PVP area. That means that PVP players are going to load into that area after 1.7 with their Elite War Hero Expertise apocalypse gear and it's going to end up a slaughter for PVE players.

This is complete ********.

That *was* the open-world PVP area.

There's been exactly zero proof that it's going to *stay* that way. Furthermore, the devs dropped pretty strong hints that Ilum will be (in their words) "completely revamped" and that "open-world PVP is on the back burner" ..

It'll be a PvE area. Mark my words.

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Elfa
01.17.2013 , 05:33 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by SturmUndSterne View Post
That *was* the open-world PVP area.

There's been exactly zero proof that it's going to *stay* that way. Furthermore, the devs dropped pretty strong hints that Ilum will be (in their words) "completely revamped" and that "open-world PVP is on the back burner" ..

It'll be a PvE area. Mark my words.
Consider your words marked my good man. Bioware has made a history of luring us to the wolves for the sake of feeding the PVP crowd.
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J__H
01.17.2013 , 05:40 AM | #14
Who cares? I'm sick of the whining SWTOR is ONE game not two, sometimes different aspects of the game inter-mesh. Who cares if it has any PVE rewards in it, it won't be BIS gear so you're at no real loss not to go do it. If you want the content then go get it, if you really can't stand doing something other than PVE sorry, but you limited yourself from content, not the other way around.
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JediCahlwyn
01.17.2013 , 06:05 AM | #15
This seems like a pvp content change on Ilum (away from the PvE area). It isn't an "event" like Rakghoul/Gree was. It might not be for everyone.

Also, we know way too little to jump to conclusions at this point.
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Elfa
01.17.2013 , 06:10 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by J__H View Post
Who cares? I'm sick of the whining SWTOR is ONE game not two, sometimes different aspects of the game inter-mesh. Who cares if it has any PVE rewards in it, it won't be BIS gear so you're at no real loss not to go do it. If you want the content then go get it, if you really can't stand doing something other than PVE sorry, but you limited yourself from content, not the other way around.
Who cares if you're sick of the whining? Maybe if they had though ahead more than 5 seconds, they wouldn't have added that stupid Expertise stat into the game and people wouldn't BE so limited. I'm not against PVP when it's a fair fight.
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Stib_
01.17.2013 , 08:06 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Elfa View Post
Who cares if you're sick of the whining? Maybe if they had though ahead more than 5 seconds, they wouldn't have added that stupid Expertise stat into the game and people wouldn't BE so limited. I'm not against PVP when it's a fair fight.
HA-HA-HA! As if this unbalanced PVP would be ever "fair".

<rage>
I play a healer Sorc. but i gear mostly for PVE and i have HEAL spec, and not that stun bubble exploit sh*t, and its almost always a gangr@pe. Its "kill the healers first!", and i am dead. Can i escape? I can try. Can i heal while escaping? Not really. So asaide from the expertise difference, what would be so "fair" in that, that i get slowed, and 2 hit smash-killed, or cc'd to death, unable to do anything asaide from one break shacles, which after i almost instantly get cc'd again. I can imagine, its fun for someone, but thats my point! R@pe is only fun for one side.
</rage>

Thanks for reading, spare yourselfs the "learn to play", "gear up", and like replies, i know them all, read them on the forum elsewhere. PVP is unbalanced, and we all know it. There is no "fairness" in it.

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Arlon_Nabarlly
01.17.2013 , 08:11 AM | #18
Ilum reboot = Ganklethorn

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anstalt
01.17.2013 , 08:14 AM | #19
If the Ilum event / revamp doesn't include pvp, then I'll be quitting. I've been on the verge of quitting for months now and have only stayed due to the promise of revamped world pvp. If there isn't proper, organised, rewarded world pvp in the Ilum revamp then my motivation for staying will be gone.

This may also sounds big headed, but I know that if I go, many of my guild will also follow. With all large endgame guilds there are usually just a few people holding it all together for the benefit of everyone else. In my guild, im one of those people. Myself and many others have been hoping for world pvp for a long time and now that we've reached a point where we've "completed" the game (endgame cleared and farmed, min-maxed pvp and pve gear, alts leveled etc) the lack of world pvp is becoming even more glaring.

So, im concerned about 1.7 too, but for the opposite reasons to the OP.
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J__H
01.17.2013 , 08:23 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Elfa View Post
Who cares if you're sick of the whining? Maybe if they had though ahead more than 5 seconds, they wouldn't have added that stupid Expertise stat into the game and people wouldn't BE so limited. I'm not against PVP when it's a fair fight.
It shouldn't be fair. If they devoted time to pvp then they deserve the benefits. Whether that's PVE or more PVP stuff it doesn't matter, the game shouldn't be separated into two sides. Likewise if there were PVP rewards only obtainable through PVE I would have no problem with that. This game needs more cohesion not less of it.
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