Summary: PvE stuff inside of PvP areas

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Summary: PvE stuff inside of PvP areas

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TUXs

01.16.2013 , 03:07 PM \| #71	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix Fine. Then they need to gimp people in PVP gear in Mekeb and make it to where they die very easily to NPCs. Don't like it? It's a PVE area. Skip it if ur scared. Fine with me. I'll through on my 63 PvE set.
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Galbatorrix

01.16.2013 , 03:13 PM \| #72	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs Fine with me. I'll through on my 63 PvE set. You like and do both. Good for you. That's not always the case. Personally, I think PVP is boring and if this new Ilum area is for PVPers only, fine by me. I'll skip it like I do with Warzones. But, if it's a PVE hub (used to garner Dailie/BH comms along with Gree rep) that is being forced into an auto-flagged area for the sole reason of "creating" world PVP, then Bioware is clueless.

Godlymuppet

01.16.2013 , 03:13 PM \| #73	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix If all of the awards are PVP related, fine. If they have general awards like pets, speeders, etc, then again it it's fair to people that don't enjoy PVP (don't enjoy PVP = they don't have any expertise). Unless, of course, they disable expertise within the area. General rewards like pets, vehicles and titles are not just for pve. Look at the pvp vendors they have those items also. Pve items are gear without expertise, pvp items are items with expertise, anything else is neither, it's general reward so can come from either.
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Furiel

01.16.2013 , 03:16 PM \| #74	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs You weren't forced to do HK and there is nothing you're being forced to do for ANY advancement EXCEPT PvE - yet PvPers must still do their class quests. They have to do their Class Quest through their starting planet and that's it. There are no other PvE requirements for anyone if they only want to PVP. PvE to level 10 in a couple hours to be able to queue up for warzone and Ilum can be accessed without a ship using the links from daily hubs and you can buy the legacy perk for cheap to QT to Black Hole for instance then use the shuttle there to get to ilum and use Fleet Pass to get back so you don't even need a ship. Same with the Outlaw's Den. Companions aren't allowed in WZs so you don't need to do class quests to get them By then end of your starting planet you have 1 companion so therefore you can craft and gather You ability to buy skills and talent points is based on levels, not class quest completion So no, PvPers do NOT have to do their class quests or any PvE content beyond getting to level 10 and completing the starter planet. And the level 10 things is a standard MMO convention for every level-based MMO I've played. Beyond level 10 ALL PvE content is OPTIONAL, including class quests, if your only desire is to PvP.
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AdamLKvist

01.16.2013 , 03:25 PM \| #75	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Furiel They have to do their Class Quest through their starting planet and that's it. There are no other PvE requirements for anyone if they only want to PVP. PvE to level 10 in a couple hours to be able to queue up for warzone and Ilum can be accessed without a ship using the links from daily hubs and you can buy the legacy perk for cheap to QT to Black Hole for instance then use the shuttle there to get to ilum and use Fleet Pass to get back so you don't even need a ship. Same with the Outlaw's Den. Companions aren't allowed in WZs so you don't need to do class quests to get them By then end of your starting planet you have 1 companion so therefore you can craft and gather You ability to buy skills and talent points is based on levels, not class quest completion So no, PvPers do NOT have to do their class quests or any PvE content beyond getting to level 10 and completing the starter planet. And the level 10 things is a standard MMO convention for every level-based MMO I've played. Beyond level 10 ALL PvE content is OPTIONAL, including class quests, if your only desire is to PvP. You are ignorant. Where do you propose we get our credits from to afford to compete at the max level? Huh? Huh? HUH? Childish, at best.
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Fantazm

01.16.2013 , 03:28 PM \| #76	Quote
See, if I was re-doing that part of Ilum as a PVP area, this is what I'd do. I'd have it so that in this area it somehow kept count of your PVP kills. For each one, you got something. As it's this game, we'll call it a commendation. You then have vendors dotted around this area that you can turn in said commendations for PVP-related rewards. Gear, armour, mods, weapons, chuck in a couple of pets and speeders etc for good measure and so that people keep coming when they've got all this stuff, have the vendor sell expertise boosts much like the exp boosts they do now. Everything then is catered to PVP and there's nothing there for the PVE crowd, so they can just avoid it.

Furiel

01.16.2013 , 03:34 PM \| #77	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by AdamLKvist You are ignorant. Where do you propose we get our credits from to afford to compete at the max level? Huh? Huh? HUH? Childish, at best. WZs reward cash You have a companion to craft for you and you can play the GTN while waiting for QZ queues No PVP gear costs credits, so the only thing you need cash for is PVP stims, adrenals and medpacks, 2 of which can be bought via WZ comms last time I checked the PVP vendor IIRC Take Biochem, Diplo and Biotech for your skills and you can farm all your own mats and make all your own consumables for less than you recoup in credits per WZ Will you get rich? No. Can you still "compete", yes. Nice try tho. Let me know when you have a real arguement.
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TUXs

01.16.2013 , 03:39 PM \| #78	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Furiel WZs reward cash You have a companion to craft for you and you can play the GTN while waiting for QZ queues No PVP gear costs credits, so the only thing you need cash for is PVP stims, adrenals and medpacks, 2 of which can be bought via WZ comms last time I checked the PVP vendor IIRC Take Biochem, Diplo and Biotech for your skills and you can farm all your own mats and make all your own consumables for less than you recoup in credits per WZ Will you get rich? No. Can you still "compete", yes. Nice try tho. Let me know when you have a real arguement. Cute lol, but not quite accurate. 1 companion won't cover ANY bills. WZ's reward FAR too little compared to a daily mission. I can earn 10x's as much in the same amount of time doing the Corellia dailies. Mod removal costs money. Augments cost money. Orange gear costs money. PvPers have at least as many expenses as PvEers - arguably more with consumables. Even your suggestion that we take Biochem to offset costs requires THREE companions...which aren't available via PvP.
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Raansu

01.16.2013 , 03:40 PM \| #79	Quote
star WARS I look forward to the new Ilum quest and putting war back into star wars. No one is forcing you to go there, so quit crying about it.

Fornix

01.16.2013 , 03:47 PM \| #80	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ckoneful This new Ilum sounds IDENTICAL to Wintergrasp... Certain things simply work the best, and timed PvP events are my favorite for world PvP. Enjoyed it a lot at first in War of Emperium in Ragnarok Online, then when WoW finally introduced something similar I found it to be part of its best forms of PvP and it's about time SWTOR does the same I'd say.
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