Game Update 1.7: Return of the Gree is coming soon!

The game is in the best state it has been since launch.

• It refers specifically to the contested area in the Western Ice Shelf.
  It comes on the heels of Jeff Hickman talking to 'some interesting changes to a special PvP area' as well as the Gree, and alluding to changes to the Western Shelf of Ilum in the same State of the Game blog.

It's PvP all right. The question is whether there are PvE objectives in there.

I really hope it doesn't turn out like that. That's the major reason I got bored with WoW and quit.

People rolled on PVE servers to avoid being griefed by the opposing faction. Forcing these players (myself included) to PVP to enjoy a world event is wrong.

You are no more forced to do this than you are to play Warzones.

You are no more forced to do this than you are to play Warzones. No one is holding a gun to your head to make you do it. This isn't a story based expansion, this is an optional questing area. I'm with you, I don't want to put up with the frustration of being griefed either, so I don't play on a PvP server. If I don't feel like running the risk of being killed on Ilum then I won't participate or I'll wait 'til the dead of night when few people are around.

I understand the frustration that you might be missing out on some elements of the game, but just because YOU do not want PvP mixed in with your PvE doesn't mean there should be no such content in the game.


I for one and really looking forward to this update. I love the Legacy system and I'm really looking forward to seeing how they handle reputation. I do hope Rep doesn't transfer completely from character to character though, perhaps a capped at a certain point. It would be very tedious if my three 50s got to the maximum level and then my level 25 BH was already there too. I do love the concept of a Legacy based rep system though, I just hope it doesn't become too simple. But at the same time I want it to be more than farming dailies/mobs.

Also there is nothing that says there won't be bug fixes coming with this patch, so before you have hysterics about the need to fix some old bugs why don't you wait for patch notes?

So you're stating your assumption that this new reputation grind is purely a pvp system giving only pvp gear?

Because if it's also supposed to be for pve gear and items, and you can only do this in a pvp zone while flagged for pvp, then this is pve content which is being denied to all who don't enjoy pvp.

Going to reserve judgement on the update till it actually comes out or we get more information, however:

Forcing players to go through a PvP zone to get to PvE objectives is the same as putting giant world bosses in the middle of a warzone. In my opinion the two should really not be mixed, Especially not on a PvE server. If its purely a PvP thing, then I'll just avoid it, but if there are PvE elements and I am forced to run the gauntlet, I'll be a bit upset. Again, just my opinion.

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That is all....

What about those of us on pve servers already - the contested area will cause pve players to flag and get ganked. Any bright ideas or words of wisdom for the pve players on a pve server getting ganked? Maybe everyone but the gankers should unsub.