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A REAL Solution to gear imbalance in level 50 Warzones

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A REAL Solution to gear imbalance in level 50 Warzones

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underpantsgnomes
01.12.2013 , 11:28 PM | #31
How about a new WZ tier for 50s where all gear is normalized. Make it reward only WH gear and maybe some titles. Might need a new comm class.
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01.13.2013 , 08:24 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Mackeyla View Post
I feel like my grandparents as I begin to type this post but here we go....

When I played this game back in the day....like a year ago.... we had to grind up comms to buy bags with other comms in them to get Centurian gear...and then Champion gear...and then we had to buy bags for Battlemaster gear on the CHANCE that we would get a Battlemaster comm...and the chance you'd get one was really pretty lame.

Currently in game....

You youngins now get a nice little present at level 50...you can either start out with a full set of recruit gear or get a nice little chunk of change.

Not only that but you can buy weapons prior to level 50 that have expertise in them, and if you so desire you can build your own set of expertise gear with a little patience and coin.

Not only that but the regular warzone comm cap has been raised quite a bit since the game's release so you can horde a bunch of comms for when you hit 50.

Not only that but you can start buying rated warzone comms at level 40 to cap those comms as well.

Not only that but you have the option to remove mod/armor/enhance from your other toons' gear and ship them to your newbie via Legacy gear.

Not only that but the price on the same War Hero gear that many of us spent months grinding comms to purchase now costs the same as the Battlemaster gear did.

Not only that but the Elite War Hero gear is a TINY step up from the regular War Hero gear which in ITSELF closes whatever gap you THINK might have existed before its release.

In conclusion...the gear gap has never been more closed. It's sealed. So stop wasting your time complaining on forums and start PVPing...which will then allow you to personally close your own gap in more ways than one.

And while you're at it...get off of my lawn.

Thanks!
Pretty much everything I was thinking, laid out perfectly for this newbies. In fact this should be stickied for all of the complainers that come on here and they they have a valid point to make lol.

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Isislol
01.13.2013 , 08:45 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by United_Strafes View Post
If you're planning on pvp theres a lot of things you can do to prepare for 50+ WZs if you don't it's your fault and yours alone.

Pretty much this. All i did 40-50 was pvp and I was capped on both ranked/regular comms the moment I hit 50.
Even if you don't save any comms it's still stupid easy to get WH gear now and the difference between WH and EWH is like 3%.

People like OP are just lazy ****s prolly living on welfare in RL.

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seefouruno
01.15.2013 , 10:10 PM | #34
Bros, i have played since this game came out. I know how bad the gear grind was to start. HOWEVER, all i was trying to say was the fact that some people either did not know about saving comms+buying EWH comms or forgot until it was too late. I understand that people think that this is so called "welfare" gear. However, adding augments and increasing the stats of the gear does NOT at all make it on the same tier of gear, its just that it REDUCES the gap of gear. Remember, people who are new to this game cannot be expected to automatically know exactly how to get max gear right at 50. Also, i geared up my gunslinger in full WH in about a month, as i had full BM gear, and a couple of WH pieces bought from before, so i didn't have this massive reserve of comms.

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Joesixxpack
01.15.2013 , 10:29 PM | #35
The current puny gap is an opportune time for new 50s to refine their skills for their next challenge and do a little bit of gear earning.

If they got to 50 without doing a quick google search or asking somebody about 50 gearing I have 0 sympathy, and would be glad to learn them about gear mk I vs, war hero, or the friggin' bags that we ground endlessly that provided crap or less than crap.
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stephenalandavie
01.15.2013 , 10:38 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by seefouruno View Post
Bros, i have played since this game came out. I know how bad the gear grind was to start. HOWEVER, all i was trying to say was the fact that some people either did not know about saving comms+buying EWH comms or forgot until it was too late. I understand that people think that this is so called "welfare" gear. However, adding augments and increasing the stats of the gear does NOT at all make it on the same tier of gear, its just that it REDUCES the gap of gear. Remember, people who are new to this game cannot be expected to automatically know exactly how to get max gear right at 50. Also, i geared up my gunslinger in full WH in about a month, as i had full BM gear, and a couple of WH pieces bought from before, so i didn't have this massive reserve of comms.
When the comms price went down i was grinding a Wh piece a day for my incomplete tanking set. It really isnt hard if you put the time in. If one doesn't they won't grind the gear as fast will they??.
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LibertySol
01.15.2013 , 11:31 PM | #37
Most of these players either:

A. Want to keep stomping new 50s or new players and don't want them to get stronger.
B. Don't like the fact that its possible some players wouldn't have to do the grind they did.
C. Or think that everyone has tons of time or wins most of their games.

To the people that keep posting about how it only takes a bit of time to get it on my server Imps lose most of the time. I also have a job and a plethora of other responsibilities. Plenty of people are in a similar situation. When I do get to play it takes forever to get any amount of commendations. So no it'll take forever just to get a full set of War Hero.

The OP is totally right. PvP should be more about skill and less about gear. I think BioWare is thinking the same thing too. The game shouldn't have massive gaps between players that makes it less about skill and strategy and more about gear. I'm not sure what needs to happen but TOR PvP needs a smaller gap.

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waznpride
01.15.2013 , 11:39 PM | #38
Shock! You can trade in WZ coms for RWZ coms starting at lvl 40! So you can *shock* get EWH and WH gear by the time you hit 50! ZOMG!

Pre-EWH, I leveled my Commando from 40-50 with only Warzones, so I had enough RWZ coms to buy a WH weapon and offhand as I hit 50. So....STOP WHINING!

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Darth_Precursor
01.15.2013 , 11:47 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Sleprock View Post
Oh my......

It takes so little time to get War hero armor now, and we still see these posts. Everyone has to pay their dues ie. take a beating as Henry Hill once put it. Man up, and deal with it until you get the gear. It does not take long.

I had to wear recruit mk-1 which was more poor in stats than what you get now and I had to pay 300k credits for it. Then I had to grind a week's worth of comms to get my battlemaster gear. Then I had to grind literally a couple months almost to get my War Hero Gear. Then many many more months to BIS the gear. Others before I started playing had to grind battlemaster pvp bags to get gear. All random mind you. So, Seriously quit your complaining. You have it easy now.

Play the damn game.
This... seriously.

I was one of those people who had to grind endlessly with Champion Bags and armaments and then with the WH gear. Quick complaining, it's retardedly easy to gear up now.
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stephenalandavie
01.16.2013 , 12:08 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Precursor View Post
This... seriously.

I was one of those people who had to grind endlessly with Champion Bags and armaments and then with the WH gear. Quick complaining, it's retardedly easy to gear up now.
lol read what he is saying. more or less the same as you numbnuts
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