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Gwence

01.15.2013 , 12:09 PM \| #81	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LukeSaberRattler Well it is on Ilum and in an open PvP area so you will most likely have to fight through the opposing side to complete these quests I would assume. Of course this is all initial information we should hopefully see more details as the release gets closer. probably wont have to fight anyone, remember back at launch imp and repub got together on ilum and took turns mass killing each other to get the daily/weekly done in like 30 seconds? lol, think I still have a few screenshots of it somewhere

SturmUndSterne

01.15.2013 , 12:11 PM \| #82	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by jibboo The area mentioned in the notes is an area that automatically flags you for PVP. Well, it was an auto-flag area. There's no evidence that it will stay that way, and plenty of supporting facts to state that it'll change. I use as citations: Dev blog post from 1/2. Copypasta in Spoiler tag: Spoiler Topic #2: World PvP � What happened to making Ilum better? What is going on with Open World PvP? Answer: We have not forgotten Ilum! I think you will see (fairly soon) the answer to this question in the game itself - something big is coming to the Western Ice Shelf, but it�s quite a departure from what was there before. As for pure Open World PvP�well, that�s a more difficult proposition. We are dedicated to providing excellent PvP experiences to our players, but we intend to focus our energy on PvP Seasons and new Warzones. We will be experimenting with a different approach to Open World PvP, something that encourages organic PvP in contested areas in a new and interesting way, but do not look for massive new Open World PvP this year (outside of what I mentioned above). It is still on our design wall, but is taking a back seat to other forms of PvP. Emphasis: do not look for massive new Open World PvP this year quite a departure from what was there before It's going to be a PvE area, guys. Enjoy!

darklordpotter

01.15.2013 , 12:15 PM \| #83	Quote
Wonder what the Imperial Mobile First fleet is - correllia? Ilum? Belsavis peaks for itself of course. It's interesting the Voss are listed as AFAIK there are no repeatable quests there just the lvl 47 bonus and out so I wonder how you are intended to grind rep with them. Any ideas?

_Darkstar

01.15.2013 , 12:16 PM \| #84	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by jibboo I don't get the PVE'rs complaints. Do we really need to break out statistics on how much gear is obtained through PVE vs. PVP? Do I really need to mention how PvP shouldn't much need gear since it should be skill based? This is (Assuming it works like it seems) the equivalent of telling PvP'ers that they have to run a flashpoint after every player they kill. PvP and PvE are not the same, different players enjoy them for different reasons and pushing them together only ever ends badly. You would have thought that splitting the servers into PvE and PvP showed they realised this, but clearly not
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TUXs

01.15.2013 , 12:16 PM \| #85	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by DakotaDoc I agree, if you want to PVP, roll a character on a PVP server. During the last event, PVP in the Outlaws Den really amounted to a bunch of IMPs Grieving Rep players trying to do their quest. Usually in mass, 15 players vs 2. That was fair. I am sure they felt big of them self's. Made me want to get on my Sith Assassin and grief them if I could, but I refused to stoop to their low level. Lets face it, open area PVP does not work. There is never any balance, what is the accomplishment in something like this. Nothing. Reminds me of LVL 50's running around the LVL 1 to 10 first planet, challenging people to a dual. WHY? Let's face it, PvEers are never content with an Op or two either. Does that mean they should skip PvE content updates that'll be beat the 1st night it's released? Of course not. You've had your PvE updates - no need to get bent out of shape that this one includes PvPers.
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_Darkstar

01.15.2013 , 12:17 PM \| #86	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs You've had your PvE updates - no need to get bent out of shape that this one includes PvPers. I don't think anyone minds PvP updates, but this seems like a PvE objective stuck in a PvP area. Make it only drop PvP gear (No titles or any other PvE reason to be there) and most people will be fine with it.
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YoshiRaphElan

01.15.2013 , 12:18 PM \| #87	Quote
Yeah, if this is Cartel Coin unlock... I'm so getting it! And for those complaining that the gear doesn't look Star Wars-y, the Gree are a mysterious race, and they craft their own armor. What's to say it has too look mainstream Star Wars? I mean, the gear the Gree give you on Coruscant probably wouldn't have been mainstream except for it was low-level. Probably the Voss/Republic/Imperial rewards will be more "normal" than the Gree rewards.
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TUXs

01.15.2013 , 12:19 PM \| #88	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by _Darkstar Do I really need to mention how PvP shouldn't much need gear since it should be skill based? PvP and PvE are not the same, different players enjoy them for different reasons and pushing them together only ever ends badly. You would have thought that splitting the servers into PvE and PvP showed they realised this, but clearly not SWTOR is a gear grind game...for PvP and PvE. I have a nearly full EWH geared set for PvP and a nearly full 63 set for PvE...it IS very possible to enjoy BOTH things.
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LukeSaberRattler

01.15.2013 , 12:19 PM \| #89	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by _Darkstar I don't think anyone minds PvP updates, but this seems like a PvE objective stuck in a PvP area. Make it only drop PvP gear (No titles or any other PvE reason to be there) and most people will be fine with it. You already get titles from PvP not sure how titles are PvE only that makes no sense. The objects are setup or at least from the look of it they hope that people will have to fight each other for these items that return PvP gear/items. I had to do PvE crap to get HK so this is fine.
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jibboo

01.15.2013 , 12:23 PM \| #90	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by _Darkstar Do I really need to mention how PvP shouldn't much need gear since it should be skill based? This is (Assuming it works like it seems) the equivalent of telling PvP'ers that they have to run a flashpoint after every player they kill. PvP and PvE are not the same, different players enjoy them for different reasons and pushing them together only ever ends badly. You would have thought that splitting the servers into PvE and PvP showed they realised this, but clearly not Fine, then stick to your flashpoints and operations and let the PVPers have some open world PVP with a reward system.
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