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I really dislike Nar Shaddaa in SWTOR.

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I really dislike Nar Shaddaa in SWTOR.

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Path-x
05.08.2012 , 11:48 AM | #11
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The issue is that Nar Shaddaa was always an awful, dirty place. In the KOTOR games it was one of the planets you visited, and was nowhere near as neon-shiny as it is in this game.
Exactly.

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They were definitely channeling Bladerunner / Cyberpunk in their design
Well that's one of the problems too. The brown-rusty glow is really bothering me. In every video game that Nar Shaddaa appeared so far it had black-grey colour tone.

It is not that I don't like Bladerunner, I love it... it is just that they shouldn't have messed up the previously established Nar Shaddaa.

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MrStarkillr
01.11.2013 , 01:17 AM | #12
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The issue is that Nar Shaddaa was always an awful, dirty place. In the KOTOR games it was one of the planets you visited, and was nowhere near as neon-shiny as it is in this game.
I think Mako put it best, "Looks like they added more lights to hide the grime." The Hutts polished up the moon's surface with all the glamor and lights to make it more appealing to the less knowing traveler. As for the other areas, they still give off the "wretched hive of scum and villainy" atmosphere that it reeked of back in KotOR and Dark Forces. Which makes perfect sense because the Dark Forces series took place in the deeper parts of the city moon, and Kotor 2 took place in the refugee sector. So in the end, whether Nar Shadda was grimier or just as clean on the surface as before. It's as gritty and dirty as I last saw it where I was before in the other Star Wars games.

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Chim-Lou
01.11.2013 , 03:31 AM | #13
Nar Shaddaa is one single planetwide city. It would be strange if this huge city looked the same everywhere on the planet.
If anything, I'm happy they are showing a different side of the planet, or moon, for a change.

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LadyDrusilla
01.11.2013 , 04:27 AM | #14
I prefer it in SWTOR, the idea that criminals that 'made it' and have pots of money are floating around on casinos above the criminal infested surface give it a lot more depth of character in my opinion.
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Path-x
01.11.2013 , 12:21 PM | #15
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I prefer it in SWTOR, the idea that criminals that 'made it' and have pots of money are floating around on casinos above the criminal infested surface give it a lot more depth of character in my opinion.
I may be repeating myself since this is an old thread but I am not bothered about a few casinos floating in the skies. It the fact that all other regions are filled with all sorts of fancy lights and this brownish tone. I mean the game itself states that Duros sector is one of the poorest sectors on the already overall poor moon and yet there are these fancy lights all over the place.
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CaptMurphy
01.11.2013 , 12:38 PM | #16
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I may be repeating myself since this is an old thread but I am not bothered about a few casinos floating in the skies. It the fact that all other regions are filled with all sorts of fancy lights and this brownish tone. I mean the game itself states that Duros sector is one of the poorest sectors on the already overall poor moon and yet there are these fancy lights all over the place.

From one of the poorest countries on Earth...
http://www.qsl.net/ah6hy/pyongyangnight.html

Point is, the Hutts and/or other criminal entities who run those sectors still see money to be made. So if putting a bunch of bright lights and neon signs up to entice the locals to spend what little credits they have, then yeah, put 'em up.

I have no problem with how the planet was designed... only the execution (another layout very close to Coruscant not long after finishing that planet).

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Path-x
01.11.2013 , 01:05 PM | #17
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From one of the poorest countries on Earth...
http://www.qsl.net/ah6hy/pyongyangnight.html

Point is, the Hutts and/or other criminal entities who run those sectors still see money to be made. So if putting a bunch of bright lights and neon signs up to entice the locals to spend what little credits they have, then yeah, put 'em up.

I have no problem with how the planet was designed... only the execution (another layout very close to Coruscant not long after finishing that planet).
Pyong Yang comparison to Nar Shaddaa is a very bad one. North Korea is a totalitarian state and the government cares about it and controls it. It is their prestigious capital and even in those photos only a handful of structures have neon lights. While Nar Shaddaa is basically one massive slum. It is true that the Hutts are wealthy and control the crime on the moon but they certainly don't care about the welfare of the casual and in great majority very poor population, much less how prestigious the slums will look at night. They wouldn't put lights in the casual sectors. If anything they would exploit them even more. Provide me some photos of slums with neon lights if you can and then you will have an argument.
Jedi: You won the day, Sith. So, kill me if you must.
Warrior: I must.

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Ystig
01.11.2013 , 01:25 PM | #18
The more apt comparison, as far as Earth venues go, might be historic Kowloon Walled City, of which so many (Hong Kong action) films have been made.

An immensely dense, chaotic hive of activity, whose only law consists in control by the gangs which rule it.
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Ighten
01.11.2013 , 02:23 PM | #19
Is it just me or does it feel/look like Coruscant artwork with some neon stuck on?

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Nydus
01.11.2013 , 04:19 PM | #20
I am not new to SW or Nar Shadaa and I really enjoyed. It is very distinct from the other locations, which have a tendency to become very drab.

I know they went for more of a bladerunner look, but there is something called artistic licensed and I at least feel it paid off.

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