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CSR number is no longer Toll Free = You are paying to be on hold!!

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CSR number is no longer Toll Free = You are paying to be on hold!!

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Spiritinblack
01.09.2013 , 12:58 PM | #71
I have been called a hater for voicing my opinion. So be it. But I would rather die on my feet, then live on my knees.

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Lionflash
01.09.2013 , 01:12 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Spiritinblack View Post
And this changes what I said how???????
It should cost you less? Or at the very least give you options. There is also the forums, emails and the help center.

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Neoforcer
01.09.2013 , 01:13 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Phyreblade View Post
Erhm, that's what I was thinking. We use our cell phones, which doesn't charge past what we pay each month for service. Unlimited calls, to boot. Mind you, we pay alot, I think, for our service. But it's been ages since I've worried overmuch about whether any particular company has a toll-free number or not, shrug.

Weird.
Have to agree except the pay a lot part being on a plan the offers Shrinking Payments with on time bill pay after 18 month of auto paying. My bill is no more the $35 dollars for unlimited calling data and texting. I paid more for land lines

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Spiritinblack
01.09.2013 , 01:18 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Lionflash View Post
It should cost you less? Or at the very least give you options. There is also the forums, emails and the help center.
And this still does'nt change what I said. Skype charges you. People think this should be free. ( not skype but a toll free number to call for CS). That is what this thread is about. Maybe I misunderstood what you were implying by linking skype, if so I'm sorry.

But IMO the number should be free. ( my opinion folks... not wrong, nor is yours)
Since MOST companies have a toll free number for CS ( not just MMOS).
I have been called a hater for voicing my opinion. So be it. But I would rather die on my feet, then live on my knees.

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YeIIow
01.09.2013 , 01:18 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
The last sentence of that is the key, instructive part.
Yesterday after i realised the ugly surprise the patch had inside, i inmediatly created this:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=583201

that, togueter with yet another copy-paste answer i got after contacting CS, reached my limit of tolerance....

this was my response to the under-the-tape move Bioware played on us last night with the patch...
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=583757

Quote: Originally Posted by YeIIow View Post
I don't usually rage on the forums, and rarely complain about anything unless it a big deal. However when i do complain, i try to do it in a civilized way and try to be as constructive as i can. With that said:

Either u guys hire a real Customer Support team, or stop claiming that u actually have one right now... cos what u have right now is a very bad joke, i find it quite offensive to us all....

What u dare to name Customer Service:
-Takes an average of 7 days to "read" and answer to a ticket or complain.
-The response u get, after such a long period of waiting, is, at the very best of the cases, clearly generic, like if it came from a robot, rather than a person.
-80% of the time, the answer u get, has noting to do with what u complained about.
-90% of the time, the answer u get is basically telling u to "read the following link"... "call the following number", or something in between, not much of a real answer is it?
-Calling Cs takes 2h, extremely long waiting time to get any sort of answer...
-It used to be at least FREE to call CS using VoIP(such as Skype) but now even that cost money? STOP ROBING US and SCAMING US...


i feel very offended by the lack of attention u guys pay to our complaints and suggestions, not to mention the complete lack of progress in any regards.....

To Bioware:
I remember the glorious times of SWKOTOR 1 and 2(even if u were not directly related to the second one), the time of Mass Effect 1(and even 2), the time of Dragon Age Origins, i remember all those days and years with joy and with a big sincere smile..... but the more i think of it nowdays, the more sadness and disappointment i feel.

I was once convinced that Bioware was the Best RPG makers out there, and the BEST game developers overall, i once looked up to Casey Hudson and saw a great man, someone i respect and admired.... But those days are long gone, and replaced by much darker ones, at one point u started making big mistakes regarding many things, u began breaking promises, u stopped listening to the wishes and needs of ur loyal consumers, u became greedy and arrogant, u lost the vision u once had, lost completely ur path, as a result of that; Dragon Age 2 was a piece of c.r.a.p in many regards; SWKTOR 3 was cancelled: SWTOR replaced SWKTOR 3, and to be realist , the ultimate truth is that this game has been a big fiasco; furthermore, what was maybe the biggest of all ur mistakes to the date: The ENDING OF MASS EFFECT 3. i consider that one, a big. nasty, spit in our face...

With Mass Effect 3 u lost most of ur loyal and older fans, the ones that had remained by ur side through this long journey. The very few that "remained loyal to some degree", have never really forgiven u entirely and have remained very skeptical about any of ur decisions from that moment on, sadly nobody is ever gona see Bioware the same way, and think of it as they did back in the days.

and what is even more sad, is that, today 9.01.2013 i have lost the little faith i had left on u, after receiving once more another stupid generic answer, that was clearly just copy pasted by a somebody, who did not, at the very least, read half of my message. A message i spent almost 1h writing and organising the 1000s words it contained. A message where i was Very, VERY Clear!

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PS: Is very sad when the Bioware Staff on the forums spend more time asking what Cartel Market items we want next, than actually looking and paying a minimum amount of attention at how ur consumers are feeling:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=580333
i give up in this game, full of disappointments, if in the course of the following days i don't get a satisfactory answer or solution, i will cancel my subscription and leave the game, as well as encourage my friends to do the same...
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Suzina
01.09.2013 , 02:06 PM | #76
nickel, meet dime.
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Neoforcer
01.09.2013 , 02:13 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Suzina View Post
nickel, meet dime.
There not nickel and diming any thing from you on this. Bioware does not make money from your phone bills or phone company. Your phone company makes the money call there CS if you want free calls

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MrSchmo
01.09.2013 , 02:14 PM | #78
Local number for me here in Chicago, so no sweat of my tale. Plus this 2013, who is still paying for a phone beside a mobile phone?
That's why they call it space, cause there is so much of it.

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Arlon_Nabarlly
01.09.2013 , 02:32 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Neoforcer View Post
There not nickel and diming any thing from you on this. Bioware does not make money from your phone bills or phone company. Your phone company makes the money call there CS if you want free calls
Sorta true, sorta not.

The argument that they are being nickeled and dimed can still hold true even if the company isn't making the money. The company is saving money by requiring the customer to pay for something they didn't before, hence nickle and diming.

The real question is what is the rational for this. Was this just part of a massive penny pinching kick or did they do some research to see how many people called that would pay long-distance versus cell phones and other that wouldn't charge it anyway. If it costs the company money to operate a toll free line but few to no one actually would be charged the toll anyway, then why would they bother?

Regardless it is kinda poor customer service, but that's nothing new to this game. CS has always been the very worst part of this game by far.

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augustgrace
01.09.2013 , 02:37 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Neoforcer View Post
There not nickel and diming any thing from you on this. Bioware does not make money from your phone bills or phone company. Your phone company makes the money call there CS if you want free calls
They are nickel and diming in the sense that they are eliminating an expense and passing it onto the customer.

Previously Bioware pretty much like every other reputable company, provided a free line to take care of the customers that keep them in business.

Now Bioware has decided that keeping their paying customers happy is less of a priority. Sure if you really want support you can get it, but now you have to pay for "inconveniencing" them.

As others have stated, cs responses by email tend to have in their copy past answer, an insistence that you have to call them in order for them to do their jobs. Now that phone support has a cost barrier in addition to the already existing time barrier (expect to spend several hours on the phone). This seems an obvious attempt to discourage requests for support, even further reducing their cs expenses, but shortsighted as it's going to drive away customers.