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I would like a Vong Event


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Blackldr
01.08.2013 , 11:10 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMat View Post
I would love to see the vong ingame for at least 1 flashpoint or operation. Maybe we have word of a unknown ship in space and are sent to investigate. Once we are in the general area, we are pulled aboard the ship. We leave our ship and explore, only to find a force of pretorite vong. the group fights through, their new objective to destroy the ship and get out alive.
Or maybe we find Zonama Sekot and visit that planet and see/experience the vong as they leave there.
The only problem is that they never came from Zenoma Sekot. The Vong were from a similar planet and had their connection with the Force cut so they wouldnt fall to the darkside by the planet Yuuzhan Tar. That planet died since they had no symbiosis with it any longer.
They sent out scouts and Canderous From Kotor took out the first scout coral skipper.
Yes some people hate the vong series. I wasnt a big fan but at least the books have been better by far than anything that crap cartoon gives us, and I think the Prequels shouldnt be cannon either. Its just a lame Romeo and Juliet story.

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Eillack
01.08.2013 , 11:28 PM | #42
No.

SW:TOR doesn't need to turn into another canon wrecker (although Kotor I and II's lore was pretty much twisted to sell TOR).

It was a one-time incident and should stay that way. It was simply a nod for those who had read about the Vong before.

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Altyrell
01.08.2013 , 11:28 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackldr View Post
The only problem is that they never came from Zenoma Sekot. The Vong were from a similar planet and had their connection with the Force cut so they wouldnt fall to the darkside by the planet Yuuzhan Tar. That planet died since they had no symbiosis with it any longer.
They sent out scouts and Canderous From Kotor took out the first scout coral skipper.
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Zenoma Sekot, like the Vong, came from Yuuzhan'Tar as Zenoma was the Seed of it. But regardless, the Advanced Force of Yuuzhan Vong had begun the invasion in 32 BBY. Before that it was only ONE Scout Ship and ONE slivilith probe creature had made it to this Galaxy, plus Zenoma doesn't arrive until between 229 - 89 BBY and somehow a Yuuzhan Vong Shaper arrived in this Galaxy during the time frame as the ONE Scout Ship.

So, it wouldn't matter, cause IF they were to add the Vong it would really only be something small as a Scout Ship or the like. It wouldn't be anything big as the big Ships won't arrive until 32 BBY.

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SithVeritas
01.08.2013 , 11:55 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Vitellius View Post
I'm not interested in the Vong myself. While a lot of people enjoy the EU, you'll probably find that a majority of Star Wars fans either don't care about it, or flat out don't like anything too far out of cannon. Plus, it's been already said that the next trilogy will not be anything like the books, thus pushing the Vong story line further out to the fringe of the Star Wars mythos.
EU is cannon.

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ganondorq
01.09.2013 , 01:29 AM | #45
i'd love this! i really love the vong's masochistic culture, and would give anything to get a movie with them or some screen time in the game. however, i'd like the npcs to be named "mysterious warrior" or "monstrous ravager".

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DarthDymond
01.09.2013 , 01:59 AM | #46
I'd forgotten about Canderous's comment about seeing what was probably a coralskipper. Since they're basically fightercraft, I don't think it'd be too big a stretch to say there was a small capital ship just beyond where he tracked it that could be the basis for a flashpoint or event.

Maybe they can make the players' actions, destroying the scout ship, why there was practically no sign of the Vong between TOR and the NJO eras.

Personally, if they're going to bring in another outside threat from the EU, I think the Ssi-ruuk would be cool too.

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Kilikaa
01.09.2013 , 02:02 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by sstanks View Post
you heard wrong. Post ROJT is all non canon. George Lucas said this many times before. Plus the new movie is going to be original so they will be wiping the slate clean.
The Clone wars Cartoon IS canon.
Wrong on all counts. Movies/tv shows are top level canon. This includes The Clone Wars show. Books are just below movies/tv on the canon scale. There is also zero proof that the new movie is going to wipe the slate clean and remove the entire EU. The story will be original but there are plenty of gaps in which the new films can fit. All you are doing is speculating. Like it or not, the novels are canon and only the films are higher level.

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Eurynamous
01.09.2013 , 02:52 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilikaa View Post
Wrong on all counts. Movies/tv shows are top level canon. This includes The Clone Wars show. Books are just below movies/tv on the canon scale. There is also zero proof that the new movie is going to wipe the slate clean and remove the entire EU. The story will be original but there are plenty of gaps in which the new films can fit. All you are doing is speculating. Like it or not, the novels are canon and only the films are higher level.
This is flying out of control!

The movies are the core foundation, the books fill the gaps. Not the other way around. The books can and will be retconned, as we have already experienced.

The Vong were originally designed to be Sith, that's right, another return of the Sith but juiced up on a darker side. Lucas does treat all of that EU content as non-existent, he has said it. But like the bible, there are a lot of contradictions.

While the Vong were hinted at being around for a long time, there was no pre-invasion. Ordo got that experience and it didn't get much deeper than that.

The films were stated as being new original stories, which will likely kill the whole solo-organa offspring stories. No Mara-jade... As we know them.

Just be prepared for honorable nods to the universe and hope for something good.

The Vong event in question, just doesn't fit or feel right in this era.
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Devlonir
01.09.2013 , 04:30 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilikaa View Post
Wrong on all counts. Movies/tv shows are top level canon. This includes The Clone Wars show. Books are just below movies/tv on the canon scale. There is also zero proof that the new movie is going to wipe the slate clean and remove the entire EU. The story will be original but there are plenty of gaps in which the new films can fit. All you are doing is speculating. Like it or not, the novels are canon and only the films are higher level.
Like it or not, But Starkiller has a much stronger canon foundation than the Vong and any other book out there. Actually, Lucas has been quoted the last years many times to give very high canon ratings to new media outlets of his universe, and never has acknowledged what was written in a book as something he would consider in his movie stories.

The books are actually the lowest form of canon, as they are most easilly overriden. They are only held above other canon sources by the book readers themselves.
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DarthDymond
01.09.2013 , 04:57 AM | #50
The 6 movies are definitely the highest canon, but for purposes of TOR the game has already fully embraced the novels, comics and video games. We've got references to Exar Kun from the Jedi Academy novels and Sith War comics, the original Sith Empire and Naga Sadow from the Golden Age of the Sith comics, heck the entire Chiss race is only from the books.
The new movies are probably going to disregard and overwrite a lot of stuff from the books, but until that happens this game is definitely treating them as canon.