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Phantom and Spymaster gear changes

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Phantom and Spymaster gear changes
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AsheraII
01.08.2013 , 12:40 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Asuka View Post
The 5% that post on the forums doesn't account for the "player base".
That must've been the 5% who complained before this change. The truth is, the Phantom and Spymaster sets were NOT complained about. Some complaints were made about the Preceptor set, which I understand since those looked rather bland compared to the advertised image, and the Revan set, which not only didn't look like the picture, but also didn't look in any way like previous appearances of Revan, both from TOR and from previous games, novels and comics. But, I didn't see a single complaint about the Phantom set "not looking as advertised". If there were any, they were VERY few. Instead, in its original released state, it was in HIGHER demand even than the Revan set. In its current downgraded state, it won't be in demand. Even the new red bikini is more preferable. It's saving grace to keep the GTN price for the current Phantom piece somewhat afloat will probably be the extremely low supply. 30k max.

So for the Phantom outfit, it's the advertisement that should've been changed, NOT the Phantom set itself!
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Ryvenn
01.08.2013 , 12:40 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by LogicalPremise View Post
I hated the old Phantom armor. Your statement is invalid, please stop assuming your desires speak for everyone.
more dislike the change. the old was better. my post is valid. people who like the change are the minority. the proof is in the number of replies here who stated as much as well. new look is fail.
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Aelther
01.08.2013 , 12:42 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Asuka View Post
The original complainers pointed out to Bioware that the gear was misrepresented in the first place so all Bioware did was correct this. Ignorance of not knowing what the cartel pack representation of the armor doesn't really fly as an excuse being they were obviously cartel items. I liked the original Phantom as implemented but knew it was wrong and that they'd fix it eventually so just said whatever.
Time and time again these forums have proven that whatever BioWare does, people will complain. Then they ask why there's a lack of communication. Well they did what community asked. Now the "other" side of the community is whining. It's amazing how can people who work at BioWare cope with this. I'd probably put a bullet in my head by now... (Jk)

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Karaiblis
01.08.2013 , 12:43 PM | #115
Obvious now after people have paid real life money for the set shown in the character changing room. not obvious when they were spending it on gear that finally looked good. I cant even find a picture of the spymaster stuff on the pack advert, where are you seeing it? I want breasts and butt back please, not a squeezed flat man like the adverts for the pack shows, why would I assume it should look like a man in the armor when the character changing room shows it is attractive on a female, then is later changed..
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Naholen
01.08.2013 , 12:43 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by NogueiraA View Post
I really liked the changes...

http://i50.tinypic.com/scubr6.jpg
I do not. Looks ridiculous on you TBH
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dpwms
01.08.2013 , 12:44 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by AsheraII View Post
That must've been the 5% who complained before this change. The truth is, the Phantom and Spymaster sets were NOT complained about.
If true, that only proves that the original sets were released in error, the fact was realized by BW, and they have now been rightly corrected.

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Vhaegrant
01.08.2013 , 12:45 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Asuka View Post
The original complainers pointed out to Bioware that the gear was misrepresented in the first place so all Bioware did was correct this. Ignorance of not knowing what the cartel pack representation of the armor doesn't really fly as an excuse being they were obviously cartel items. I liked the original Phantom as implemented but knew it was wrong and that they'd fix it eventually so just said whatever.
The trouble is, people interested in Cartel Packs and the possible images are more likely to be aware of any problems associated with such items. Having purchased a Cartel Pack to find the item is not the one they wanted they still have the option to leave it unbound and sell it on the GTN.

I don't go near the cartel packs, I don't like the odds on that kind of item acquisition. I had no idea the Phantom chest and gloves were supposed to look like the artwork on the cartel pack. I did however see that the models in preview mode looked nice and sleek, and importantly the object icon reflects this too. The Phantom Chestguard and Revan Chest plate are essentially the same hooded model now but the object icons are completely different.

I think the biggest problem I have is that a Cartel pack buyer, who gaining an item they didn't want (and this would probably account for most of the items gained) still had the choice to sell it on.

The GTN purchasers bought it at the time based on how it looked in the preview screens and have had no choice.

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dpwms
01.08.2013 , 12:45 PM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Karaiblis View Post
I want my breasts and butt back please
Now we get to the heart of the matter.

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Jemfisto
01.08.2013 , 12:48 PM | #120
Keep the changes Bioware that's how that were advertised!!!