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Phantom and Spymaster gear changes

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Phantom and Spymaster gear changes
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Karaiblis
01.08.2013 , 11:48 AM | #51
The advertised picture is just a vague representation, the preview on your character is what you use to decide to buy or not, to see what exactly they are offering. For example, on the game box, THE advertisement for the game, Satele is an attractive young woman. In game she's a weird black lipliner wearing, wrinkly old broad, who's gained 40 lbs. The advert is simply an artist representation, the prieview in the changing room is the exact representation of what you're buying will look like on your character, and they changed it, its a bait and switch scam.
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Rankyn
01.08.2013 , 11:50 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Ryvenn View Post
LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMER BASE AND DO THE RIGHT THING. Guaranteed there is NOT ONE PERSON who likes the change.
I like the change, therefore your argument is invalid.
All-caps makes it louder but not more accurate.

Also, I do not think you understand what the term "customer base" means.

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Sanctioned
01.08.2013 , 11:50 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Karaiblis View Post
It's advertised by the preview that shows people exactly what it will look like on your character, dont be an idiot. You put things on in a dressing room and buy them based on what it looks like on you, that's the way clothes shopping works, ask your mom to take you next time she buys your clothes and you might get a clue.
You're trying to make this really really difficult, aren't you?

They have been fixed so they are as advertised on the cartel pack stock photos.

The in-game "Preview" function only showed the broken version, not the intended stock photo version.

Wrap your head around it.
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Malderak
01.08.2013 , 11:51 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Asuka View Post
All you had to do is look at the picture on the cartel pack to see both armor pieces looked totally incorrect.
No I didn't.

What if that was another separate set in the pack? It's not like there is a list on the things I might find within, or a big sign upon it saying "THIS IS THE PHANTOM ROBE!"

What if I saw the Phantom chest wore by somoene else and decided to buy the pack? What if I bought it based on the preview window on GTN (with credits made by selling other stuff bought with real cash)?

And even then, how could I know it was going to be changed? Must I look at the forums every time I buy something to be sure?

What about the trailblazer set? How was I supposed to know?

Stop defending something that's indefensible.

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Slightrider
01.08.2013 , 11:52 AM | #55
Original looked better. Looks dorky now.
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Sanctioned
01.08.2013 , 11:52 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Karaiblis View Post
The advertised picture is just a vague representation, the preview on your character is what you use to decide to buy or not, to see what exactly they are offering. For example, on the game box, THE advertisement for the game, Satele is a attractive young woman. In game she's a weird black lipliner wearing, wrinkly old broad, who's gained 40 lbs. The advert is simply an artist representation, the prieview in the changing room is the exact representation what you're buying will look like on your character, and they changed it, its a bait and switch scam.
The images of content and armor on the cartel packs are in-game images, not some graphic cartoon hand-made drawing of an artist's "representation".

Get over it. The in-game was finally fixed to appear as intended.
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jupezz
01.08.2013 , 11:54 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Malderak View Post
This is ridiculous and you know it.

So everytime I buy an item I have to search through all advert pictures and forums to make sure it is as intended and not going to be changed in the future?

Do you realize how stupid your statement is?
"Search through"? All you had to do was look at the damn picture. That should of been enough to at least guess that there's a high chance that it will be changed/fixed.
And stop babbling about spending real money. You bought the packs with money, not the respective armor sets. And I sure as hell hope that you didn't just buy the packs to get your hands on the Phantom pieces.



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hahaha! Don't hurt yourself twisting logic into pretzels trying to defend Bioware.
It's not twisted logic, it's common sense - an ability, which many here seem to seriously lack. And I'm not defending Bioware as they do screw up often but just not this time.

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AsheraII
01.08.2013 , 11:55 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Aelther View Post
They didn't "change" it. They fixed it. The original appearance did not look like advertised on the pack, so people were complaining about that. Now they fixed it so that it would match the ad on the pack.
And where in the advertisement was it said that those specific pieces shown were the Phantom and Spymaster pieces? Exactly nowhere. Handdrawn advertisements are just interpretations of how the items look. They are NEVER reliable examples of the actual item. Never meant to be either, otherwise EACH cartel pack should contain a full Revan set and every other piece of clothing displayed as well, all pets shown, and maybe even give you a companion looking like every character displayed on the package.

The preview button exists specifically to show how the items look in game, and even on your own character or companion. Both were rather uncommon drops from Cartel Packs, both were Bind on Equip.
Don't like their appearance? Simple: put them on GTN and sell them for several hundred thousand.
Do like their appearance? Simple: look through the GTN, make sure to preview, and buy them if you like them.

However, the items were changed DRASTICALLY in appearance AFTER purchases have been made, items have been equiped and thus, items have become bound to character. This change needs to be reverted, and FAST. Especially on the Phantom and Spymaster sets, since those two sets were altered radically, while the other sets were also altered, but more subtle.

I can already see the value of the chestguard dropping from it's current 400-500k to less than 30k. Traders are very reluctant to relist the ones they have in storage, a lot of them have probably been flipping the thing like crazy over the past month, and now see their investment turn into a profit loss, hoping for a revert or waiting to see where the new value settles. I'm glad I'm not one of them, since I don't like flipping, but I personally wouldn't even give 5k for it as it looks now, whereas the old design had me look a few times whether I should save up for it on some toons.
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Karaiblis
01.08.2013 , 11:56 AM | #59
I'll get over it when they refund the real life money I paid based on false previews. I wouldn't care if it's credits, but they took real life money and then changed the product to something I would never ever buy.
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Malderak
01.08.2013 , 11:57 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by jupezz View Post
"Search through"? All you had to do was look at the damn picture. .
Oh, so the damn picture had a giant sign saying "THIS IS WHAT THE PHANTOM ROBE SHOULD REALLY LOOK LIKE AND WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT?"

My bad, my bad.