Are we seriously supposed to preorder with this little info?

You've never shopped at Farmfoods have you.

Sorry, but the OP is perfectly right.

I couldn't care less about 5 more levels added on top of a game not designed for it with absolutely NO info on how it's being done.
One planet "as big as the current biggest" is a cool addition... for a free refresh, not for a paid expansion. I remember days when expansions almost added as much as the initial game content, each 12~18 months, with free content added inbetween (housing, massive redesign, 3D engine upgrade...).

So... why would I pre-order an expansion with what we know? And for such a ridiculous 5-days early access on top of that? Oh, they'll probably add some stupid pet with a unique color scheme and a "World discoverer" title, too...

I should add I don't have any confidence in the team given its track record, full of half polished things (group finder, ranked warzones... Ilum?) and game-breaking bugs remaining for months (there still is a bug in EV's pylons encounter for example, and no, it's not a player issue... rather a broken script with wrong conditions players have to counter, something you often face when an unfinished script/program is taken to someone else), so, why the hell should I pre-order this expansion?

People spend MORE then that on pre-orders all the time. Just check consoles sales. Hell, people pre-ordered Call of Duty with NO info. They just went, "Take my money!". It could've been the worse game in history and it wouldn't have mattered.

Spend or don't spend. For $10 bucks, I'm fine with it. I spend more on movies for 2hrs of "entertainment".

Yep. The devs are giving as much info as how they made so much money selling the cartel packs, which blew all their metrics away.

Lets look at $10 that can buy you roughly 3 Crime Lord Pack.

An exclusive sample of the finest goods from the Cartel. Each pack contains very rare bonus items found nowhere else!
•Two rare bonus items with a chance of super rare!
•Chance for a super rare bonus are greater than from a Black Market Cartel Pack
•One boost item, for either Experience or Social points
•One crafting material of at last prototype quality
•One companion gift of at least prototype quality

Look at the similar volume of info for the expansion:

The first Digital Expansion for The Old Republic™ introduces an aggressive new enemy threatening the future of the galaxy: the Hutt Cartel
•Experience 5 new levels, including story-driven missions, as the level cap increases to 55!
•Face-off against a frightening new enemy when you battle the nefarious Hutt Cartel.
•The fate of the new planet Makeb is at stake... and in your hands.
•Stay tuned for more information coming soon - Over the next few months we will reveal more exciting new features!


Aren't we all excited? I am going to die when I see Makeb.

I liked this game, but it could be a lot better. And they could actually show some effort fixing bugs and stuff. And with Makeb announced months ago, and being made as many of us were subscribed...

Imagine if any other MMO talked about and hyped up this big content patch for months and months. And then all of a sudden they said, "Hey! Thanks for your subscriber money. But you're gonna have to pay us even more if you want this next content patch. We're gonna raise the level cap and slap "expansion" on it. So if you dont buy it, well you might as well quit."

I feel anybody who was subjected to that with any other game, most would have quit instantly. But just because this is the only SW MMO we're supposed to suck it up and buy it anyways? Seems kind of silly, and I feel if it wasnt Star Wars, everyone would probably feel this way.

Maybe it's not so much as gullible as it is a blind, "BioWare with a SW IP can do no wrong", mindset.

There's plenty of info on it. New planet with 5 levels. The problem is you're not sure you think that's worth 10 bucks. You're hoping there's more but that's your problem.

So much info, really...

I'll add some 50 grams more stuff on your perfectly round Pizza for 15c, what a bargain, isn't it?

If it turns out that's 50 grams of ham and you're vegan or muslim, I don't think you'll be that happy.

this is a pretty good description except you left out the part where its the pizza place that makes all its money from drunk people sobering up after last call, so even if you do like what you get its still a crappy product.

I just don't understand why they couldn't even tell us how many new Ops there are with an approximate number of bosses. Or hell even a "yes there will be new FPs and WZs' would have been nice if they couldn't give us that.

The fact that they won't even tell us if there will be anything new makes me feel like I am getting scammed.

Uh...because there probably won't be ANY of those in Makeb. It's a story planet, not a WZ/Ops area. Their lack of mentioning those 2 items was intentional...because they aren't going to have any.