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High Level Gear Looks Awful


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kamed
01.07.2013 , 01:23 PM | #11
I agree end-gear looks stupid, but its the same thing in every MMO. Its the exact reason why I choose to gear with low level custom armors. They look cooler and not so lore breaking.

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ReverendAnderson
01.07.2013 , 01:26 PM | #12
I just picked up my free set of Tionese for my Guardian, and it looks fine, but will I loose anything (beyond some money) if I strip out the mods and put them in my Colicoid War game gear? Because I really like the red robed jedi look more. I thought that was kind of the point of modifiable gear.
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AlienEyeTX
01.07.2013 , 01:32 PM | #13
I agree, completely. I got Tionese for my SI and realized that she was nearly as wide as she is tall, with those ridiculous wings or whatever. So, I immediately ripped out the mods and sold the chestpiece to a vendor. Put the mods in something decent looking and all is well now. The rest of the set was fine (since I always hide head slot anyway).
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Arlon_Nabarlly
01.07.2013 , 01:40 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by ReverendAnderson View Post
I just picked up my free set of Tionese for my Guardian, and it looks fine, but will I loose anything (beyond some money) if I strip out the mods and put them in my Colicoid War game gear? Because I really like the red robed jedi look more. I thought that was kind of the point of modifiable gear.
You will lose the set bonus.
Tionese/Columni/Rakata = set bonus on shell
Campaign/DreadGuard = set bonus on the armoring.

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Caelith
01.07.2013 , 01:46 PM | #15
Indeed, the only set that looks decent is Trooper gear.

Why is it that mid level gear non epic gear looks fine but they seem to have taken LSD when doing the final gear.
The siege of Coruscant was in fact brought to an end after the republic agreed to give the Empire a Shrubbery, one that looked nice and wasn't too expensive.

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DawnAskham
01.07.2013 , 01:48 PM | #16
“Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away” – Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Unfortunately the designers of SWTOR seem to feel some overwhelming urge to keep adding knobs, antennas, various attachments, mud flaps, and other doo-dads to every piece of armor, thus we get the hideous crap we see in game today.

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dpwms
01.07.2013 , 01:51 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by DawnAskham View Post
“Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away” – Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Unfortunately the designers of SWTOR seem to feel some overwhelming urge to keep adding knobs, antennas, various attachments, mud flaps, and other doo-dads to every piece of armor, thus we get the hideous crap we see in game today.
Seriously, its like they take their design cues from early 1960s Chryslers.

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NogueiraA
01.07.2013 , 02:18 PM | #18
You guys know this is the OLD Republic right?

Thousands of years before the "new" Jedi.

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Gavin_Kelvar
01.07.2013 , 02:22 PM | #19
This is why I've been grinding BH comms, I'd rather spend a lot of time grinding weeklies for several months before I can do the toughest level 50 FPs than spend several weeks wishing I had a "hide name, title, legacy name, and guild name + wear paper bag over head" option.

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paul_preib
01.07.2013 , 02:22 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by dpwms View Post
The weird thing about it is, a lot of the sets might be OK if they just removed the bizarre accessories. For example, the Tionese gear for Sorcerors has those massive shoulder wings, and the Bounty Hunter sets have those huge cylindrical things sticking out of the back.
I have to agree with this one, there are quite a few sets that feel like just one or two embellishments exist that sort of wreck it.


Trooper-- Actually one of the least objectional when you look at the entirety of sets, but small changes would help:


1.Trooper BH+-- Shoulder disks

2.Trooper WH--- One shoulder... thingamajig

3.Trooper Tionese--> Rakata: Helmet Choice


Inquisitor-- Where they went more off-the-grid than anywhere else, just need to be de-high fantasy'd a bit:

1.Inquisitor BH+-- Remove the evil horseshoe attachments and makes the robes less form-fitting and you get an interesting still very stylized caster look that isn't as head-scratching

2.Inquisitor WH-- I'm the one weirdo who kinda likes swamp thing, though the shoulder webbing is a bridge too far. Assassin color choices also need help.

3.Inquisitor Tionese--> Rakata-- Remove the shoulders from all of them in favor of more rounded smaller shoulder pads, take the cone part from the Sorc helms and change the buffalo horns of 'sins entirely.


Consular--The least redeaming in the game. You can argue inquisitors as just being stylization overkill, but here there isn't even that much style really. While I think of full redo on many is better, this is about tweaking what is existing to make it more palatable so here goes...

1.Black Hole+-- Make it more of a shirt than an off-the-shoulder variety, cinch it less at the waist so that it doesn't try to give male characters an hourglass (does have the redeeming feature of the lone consular piece I do like, the headslot).

2.War Hero-- Take away the skirted part of the shirt and make robes instead of leggings for the bottom.

3.Tionese--> Rakata-- Take the hockey pads off and replace both helm types with a basic simple cowl or circlet


Warrior-- Another mixed bag because it is so stylized this means people's opinions will have a lot of variance, but a bit of toning down helps.

1.BH+-- De-horn the helm or replace it with a more traditional (for SW) face mask

2.War Hero-- Replace the Castle rookery shoulders with ones similar to the Black armor.

3.Tionese--> Rakata: Remove the toe-spikes, take away the shoulders and put a cape across the back



Jedi Knight-- Tough sell, like the Consular this has some of the least-redeeming sets in game, but for what you have to work with:

1.Black Hole--Take away shoulder doohickies (recurring theme it seems?) and make it a tad less form fitting to look more robe-like.

2.War Hero-- Take away shoulder twirlygig and make it symmetrical with the smaller-side shoulder, Helmet replaced with something similar to the Consular BH mask.

3.TIonese--> Rakata-- Make the bottom robe-part wrap just a bit further across the front to cover how legging-y these (and most non trooper/bounty hunter) pants tend to be.


Bounty Hunter-- You can see the baseline in place for decent looking armor sets that were hurt by over-embelishment that eschews cool/clean mandalorian lines for bulky over-the-top busy-ness. Think of how that 14 tool swiss army knife is a nice piece but that 35 tool one just looks comical.

1.BH+-- Replace the giant faceplate with one more visorlike, continue the chest and upper leg armor down the full arm and leg lengths.

2.WH+-- Remove (or drastically reduce) back tube, take the spider legs off the helmet, shoulders made conform to arm rather then be separate large plates.

3.Tionese--> Rakata-- Take away back tubes and use the fin helm for both instead of the semicricle.


Agent-- For some reason decided to play the spy instead of agent angle. Has in my opinion many of the best armors among their non set items, making the endgame stuff that much more unusual.

1.BH+-- Reverse colors so the dark trim is the primary, the 'colored' parts the trim, replace the de-trunked elephant headpiece with visor-like goggles.

2.War Hero-- Take the hat away so its just the goggles, remove the shoulder pods and the backpack.

3.Tionese--> Rakata-- Take the shirted part of the chest away and redesign the helm help it veer away from snakeeyes in space.


Smuggler-- Like the agent it has a lot of good going for it pre-endgame then derails for out of character design.

1.BH+-- Replace the Peter Pan hat with something similar to the trailblazer helm and remove the skirted backside

2.WH-- Remove wrist-cuffs and ear.... nodules?

3.Tionese--> Rakata: Take away the cape, make all helms either have the facemask or remove the jacob-marley headband from the ones that do not. Take the boots to the knee instead of the thigh.
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